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o_O.Q said:
JazzB1987 said:
o_O.Q said:
JazzB1987 said:
I dont get why people are discussing this even today. its not even that awesome

I mean its basically: Check if player needs help, see player needs help, look for item to help player, take item and use it. Use taunt if succesfull (eat that shit!) . etc.


Its nothing else than the usual enemy behavior like. Check if player is there. Fire at player, check environment for hiding spots/cover, see low wall, take cover.


I


saying that you don't get why people are discussing the game is not indicative of interest in the game from my perspective

and as i said because you find nothing of worth to discuss or be interested in does not mean that applies to others

what i've written was derived from your comments and other comments i've seen in this thread... i'm no psychic i can only comment on what you've written, not what you're feeling or thinking

And a second time. LEARN TO READ.

1. "saying that you don't get why people are discussing the game"
I NEVER SAID I DONT GET WHY PEOPLE DISCUSS THE GAME.

2."is not indicative of interest in the game from my perspective"
I never intended to say I have interest in the game because it had nothing to do with what I wanted to say.  So OF COURSE it's not indicative of any kind of interest.  It's like if I say your reply is not indicative of how my cheesecake tastes...

3."because you find nothing of worth to discuss or be interested in does not mean that applies to others"
Who are you talking to dude? I have interest in the game.   So why are you saying this? Just as an info?  Okay let me tell you 1 thing I found out. WATER IS WET.  And btw I replied to the TOPIC of the thread. To bad its not worth being discussed in your opinion.

4."what i've written was derived from your comments...."
Well it was derived from what your EGO was seeing as an insult or whatever. And I had 1 comment before you replied not several commentS.

5." i'm no psychic i can only comment on what you've written, not what you're feeling or thinking"
How about starting to do so then? You clearly didn't comment on what I said but on what YOU wanted to read.

Please read carefully.


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CGI-Quality said:

Your first post:

 

I dont get why people are discussing this even today. its not even that awesome.

I mean its basically: Check if player needs help, see player needs help, look for item to help player, take item and use it. Use taunt if succesfull (eat that shit!) . etc.


Its nothing else than the usual enemy behavior like. Check if player is there. Fire at player, check environment for hiding spots/cover, see low wall, take cover.


Its nothing else. The only difference is that the game checks for items etc. in addition to walls. And has a ton of prerecorded voice.

So I dont get what that fuzz is about.



The entire post could easily be considered against the game, particularly what's underlined. I don't mind either way if you have interest in the game or loathe it, but it could definitely be assumed that you may not be interested in it based on that post.


Well If one creates a thread about a specific topic (last of us  scripts)  then one usually thinks replies are related to the topic  correct?

And whats the point in  focusing on the first and last sentence (which can mean anything according to some)   when the rest is clearly  talking about the topic     THE SCRIPTS?   

So what exactly did happen here?

  • First sentence  (not sure if bash of game or on topic.  Hmm  ill take it as bash of game because Im a pessimist maybe?)
  • BLOCK OF TEXT (hmm okay this is clearly on topic  okay)
  • Last sentence (hmm again not sure if bash of game or on topic... Ill take it as bash of game AGAIN and ignore the text in the mid even if the SO in the last sentence shows that it has something to do with the block of text in the mid.)

 

Makes no sense at all. And its the readers fault if something is being misinterpreted.

And whats the point in arguing now that you all already know what was ment? It just looks like people have to find excuses...  This is my last reply because all this is to off-topic imho. And I said what I wanted to say several times now.


I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GAME AND DON'T UNDERSTAND THE  SCRIPT FUZZ. END OF STORY.  Thank you for reading.






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Hynad said:
Dgc1808 said:
errorpwns said:
Dgc1808 said:
Zomg dat AI!!!!! So excited!! Does this bother you?! Sue me...


No, what bothers me is when someone says they don't find the A.I impressive they get hateful comments shoved down their throats for speaking their opinion and some fact along with it.


That's not what I saw from you in this thread.

Actually, it's quite the other way around.  He's the one who called other people names for not seeing the A.I. and the visuals of the game the same way he does. Of course people will react strongly to such bahavior.


Cite the name calling.  I called someone a fanboy ONCE and got warned for it.  So I in turn decided I probably shouldn't do that and quit the whole thread.  Instead I was called named for having a different opinion.  I even admitted to being a bit rash at first.  This whole thread is blind fact.  It claims the A.I is unscripted.  Which is far from the truth.  There, there's your blind truth.



JazzB1987 said:
o_O.Q said:
JazzB1987 said:
o_O.Q said:
JazzB1987 said:
I dont get why people are discussing this even today. its not even that awesome

I mean its basically: Check if player needs help, see player needs help, look for item to help player, take item and use it. Use taunt if succesfull (eat that shit!) . etc.


Its nothing else than the usual enemy behavior like. Check if player is there. Fire at player, check environment for hiding spots/cover, see low wall, take cover.


I


saying that you don't get why people are discussing the game is not indicative of interest in the game from my perspective

and as i said because you find nothing of worth to discuss or be interested in does not mean that applies to others

what i've written was derived from your comments and other comments i've seen in this thread... i'm no psychic i can only comment on what you've written, not what you're feeling or thinking

And a second time. LEARN TO READ.

1. "saying that you don't get why people are discussing the game"
I NEVER SAID I DONT GET WHY PEOPLE DISCUSS THE GAME.

2."is not indicative of interest in the game from my perspective"
I never intended to say I have interest in the game because it had nothing to do with what I wanted to say.  So OF COURSE it's not indicative of any kind of interest.  It's like if I say your reply is not indicative of how my cheesecake tastes...

3."because you find nothing of worth to discuss or be interested in does not mean that applies to others"
Who are you talking to dude? I have interest in the game.   So why are you saying this? Just as an info?  Okay let me tell you 1 thing I found out. WATER IS WET.  And btw I replied to the TOPIC of the thread. To bad its not worth being discussed in your opinion.

4."what i've written was derived from your comments...."
Well it was derived from what your EGO was seeing as an insult or whatever. And I had 1 comment before you replied not several commentS.

5." i'm no psychic i can only comment on what you've written, not what you're feeling or thinking"
How about starting to do so then? You clearly didn't comment on what I said but on what YOU wanted to read.

Please read carefully.


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CGI-Quality said:

Your first post:

 

I dont get why people are discussing this even today. its not even that awesome.

I mean its basically: Check if player needs help, see player needs help, look for item to help player, take item and use it. Use taunt if succesfull (eat that shit!) . etc.


Its nothing else than the usual enemy behavior like. Check if player is there. Fire at player, check environment for hiding spots/cover, see low wall, take cover.


Its nothing else. The only difference is that the game checks for items etc. in addition to walls. And has a ton of prerecorded voice.

So I dont get what that fuzz is about.



The entire post could easily be considered against the game, particularly what's underlined. I don't mind either way if you have interest in the game or loathe it, but it could definitely be assumed that you may not be interested in it based on that post.


Well If one creates a thread about a specific topic (last of us  scripts)  then one usually thinks replies are related to the topic  correct?

And whats the point in  focusing on the first and last sentence (which can mean anything according to some)   when the rest is clearly  talking about the topic     THE SCRIPTS?   

So what exactly did happen here?

  • First sentence  (not sure if bash of game or on topic.  Hmm  ill take it as bash of game because Im a pessimist maybe?)
  • BLOCK OF TEXT (hmm okay this is clearly on topic  okay)
  • Last sentence (hmm again not sure if bash of game or on topic... Ill take it as bash of game AGAIN and ignore the text in the mid even if the SO in the last sentence shows that it has something to do with the block of text in the mid.)

 

Makes no sense at all. And its the readers fault if something is being misinterpreted.

And whats the point in arguing now that you all already know what was ment? It just looks like people have to find excuses...  This is my last reply because all this is to off-topic imho. And I said what I wanted to say several times now.


I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GAME AND DON'T UNDERSTAND THE  SCRIPT FUZZ. END OF STORY.  Thank you for reading.




" I NEVER SAID I DONT GET WHY PEOPLE DISCUSS THE GAME. "

well you did below...

"I dont get why people are discussing this even today. its not even that awesome"

 

"I never intended to say I have interest"

yeah exactly... and i never at any point said so... i however inferred that you didn't have any from what you said 

 

"because you find nothing of worth to discuss or be interested in does not mean that applies to others"

"Who are you talking to dude? I have interest in the game.   So why are you saying this? Just as an info?"

i said it because of what you said here... obviously "I dont get why people are discussing this even today. its not even that awesome"

 

"Well it was derived from what your EGO was seeing as an insult or whatever. And I had 1 comment before you replied not several commentS."

i wasn't only reffering to your comments obviously... thinking that is pretty egotistical wouldn't you say?

 

" You clearly didn't comment on what I said but on what YOU wanted to read."

nope as shown above that isn't the case...



Slightly off-topic, though still about TLoU (didn't know where to post this)...

Did anyone see this recent interview from Pax regarding TLoU's multiplayer? (skip to around 1:30)
http://www.dualshocknexus.com/2012/09/the-last-of-us-multiplayer-update-pax.html

Anyone else confused and/or frustrated that their answer is still "undecided" regarding what they're doing with the multiplayer?

"WORKING on some ideas"??

"We don't know what direction we're going yet"??

Didn't they give the same answer back at E3 or even before?? First this game was rumored to release this year, then (from what I've gathered) it was expected early-ish 2013; but, how can they flesh out an entire multiplayer experience in a matter of a few months if they don't even know what they're doing yet?

This makes me think TLoU will release later - maybe even significantly - than we thought and hoped; and this is what's frustrating.

Does this strike anyone else as odd?



pitzy272 said:

Slightly off-topic, though still about TLoU (didn't know where to post this)...

Did anyone see this recent interview from Pax regarding TLoU's multiplayer? (skip to around 1:30)
http://www.dualshocknexus.com/2012/09/the-last-of-us-multiplayer-update-pax.html

Anyone else confused and/or frustrated that their answer is still "undecided" regarding what they're doing with the multiplayer?

"WORKING on some ideas"??

"We don't know what direction we're going yet"??

Didn't they give the same answer back at E3 or even before?? First this game was rumored to release this year, then (from what I've gathered) it was expected early-ish 2013; but, how can they flesh out an entire multiplayer experience in a matter of a few months if they don't even know what they're doing yet?

This makes me think TLoU will release later - maybe even significantly - than we thought and hoped; and this is what's frustrating.

Does this strike anyone else as odd?

yeah this does make it seem like it won't release early 2013

on the positive side ( for some ) it shows at least that at this point they're concentrating most of their resources to making the single player

i suppose that if buliding the mp is too time consuming they may scrap it and just ship the game as a sp experience, although i doubt that as i think i've heard them stating recently that they don't plan to ship future games without mp



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o_O.Q said:
pitzy272 said:

Slightly off-topic, though still about TLoU (didn't know where to post this)...

Did anyone see this recent interview from Pax regarding TLoU's multiplayer? (skip to around 1:30)
http://www.dualshocknexus.com/2012/09/the-last-of-us-multiplayer-update-pax.html

Anyone else confused and/or frustrated that their answer is still "undecided" regarding what they're doing with the multiplayer?

"WORKING on some ideas"??

"We don't know what direction we're going yet"??

Didn't they give the same answer back at E3 or even before?? First this game was rumored to release this year, then (from what I've gathered) it was expected early-ish 2013; but, how can they flesh out an entire multiplayer experience in a matter of a few months if they don't even know what they're doing yet?

This makes me think TLoU will release later - maybe even significantly - than we thought and hoped; and this is what's frustrating.

Does this strike anyone else as odd?

yeah this does make it seem like it won't release early 2013

on the positive side ( for some ) it shows at least that at this point they're concentrating most of their resources to making the single player

i suppose that if buliding the mp is too time consuming they may scrap it and just ship the game as a sp experience, although i doubt that as i think i've heard them stating recently that they don't plan to ship future games without mp


I may be alone, but judging by the type of game this is I just don't see the justification for multiplayer.  It'd make a solid single player experience for anyone interested in it and will be worth the money to those people.  Adding multiplayer to a game like TLoU may make the multiplayer seem tacked on and just there for the sake of multiplayer.  Which I'm guessing is why they're having trouble deciding on how to go about it.  SInce Naughty Dog most likely doesn't feel comfortable with having multiplayer just tacked on and want to actually make it intertwine with the game well.



It looks really good. Don't know how people on the internet are saying it's just Uncharted copy pasted.



Panama said:
It looks really good. Don't know how people on the internet are saying it's just Uncharted copy pasted.


Not enough bloom and over saturation to be Uncharted.  Joking aside, yeah the game is a lot different in setting.  Gameplay I couldn't tell you.  Haven't played TLoU.  Atmosphere alone it gives off a different vibe though.  Which can drastically make a game different.  In my opinion. 



errorpwns said:
o_O.Q said:
pitzy272 said:

Slightly off-topic, though still about TLoU (didn't know where to post this)...

Did anyone see this recent interview from Pax regarding TLoU's multiplayer? (skip to around 1:30)
http://www.dualshocknexus.com/2012/09/the-last-of-us-multiplayer-update-pax.html

Anyone else confused and/or frustrated that their answer is still "undecided" regarding what they're doing with the multiplayer?

"WORKING on some ideas"??

"We don't know what direction we're going yet"??

Didn't they give the same answer back at E3 or even before?? First this game was rumored to release this year, then (from what I've gathered) it was expected early-ish 2013; but, how can they flesh out an entire multiplayer experience in a matter of a few months if they don't even know what they're doing yet?

This makes me think TLoU will release later - maybe even significantly - than we thought and hoped; and this is what's frustrating.

Does this strike anyone else as odd?

yeah this does make it seem like it won't release early 2013

on the positive side ( for some ) it shows at least that at this point they're concentrating most of their resources to making the single player

i suppose that if buliding the mp is too time consuming they may scrap it and just ship the game as a sp experience, although i doubt that as i think i've heard them stating recently that they don't plan to ship future games without mp


I may be alone, but judging by the type of game this is I just don't see the justification for multiplayer.  It'd make a solid single player experience for anyone interested in it and will be worth the money to those people.  Adding multiplayer to a game like TLoU may make the multiplayer seem tacked on and just there for the sake of multiplayer.  Which I'm guessing is why they're having trouble deciding on how to go about it.  SInce Naughty Dog most likely doesn't feel comfortable with having multiplayer just tacked on and want to actually make it intertwine with the game well.

"I just don't see the justification"

what justification is needed? are you talking about the type of game?

 

uncharted started off sp only and had multiplayer not been added with 2 i probably wouldn't have gotten it

the main reason i got 2 was that the mp beta had me hooked, but after i actually got the game i realised that it actually had much better sp than the original imo ( which to me wasn't that spectacular )

 

what does "tacked on" mean in this context?



o_O.Q said:
JazzB1987 said:
o_O.Q said:
JazzB1987 said:
 
 
CGI-Quality said:


 


Well If one creates a thread about a specific topic (last of us  scripts)  then one usually thinks replies are related to the topic  correct?

And whats the point in  focusing on the first and last sentence (which can mean anything according to some)   when the rest is clearly  talking about the topic     THE SCRIPTS?   

So what exactly did happen here?

  • First sentence  (not sure if bash of game or on topic.  Hmm  ill take it as bash of game because Im a pessimist maybe?)
  • BLOCK OF TEXT (hmm okay this is clearly on topic  okay)
  • Last sentence (hmm again not sure if bash of game or on topic... Ill take it as bash of game AGAIN and ignore the text in the mid even if the SO in the last sentence shows that it has something to do with the block of text in the mid.)

 

Makes no sense at all. And its the readers fault if something is being misinterpreted.

And whats the point in arguing now that you all already know what was ment? It just looks like people have to find excuses...  This is my last reply because all this is to off-topic imho. And I said what I wanted to say several times now.


I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GAME AND DON'T UNDERSTAND THE  SCRIPT FUZZ. END OF STORY.  Thank you for reading.




" I NEVER SAID I DONT GET WHY PEOPLE DISCUSS THE GAME. "

well you did below...

"I dont get why people are discussing this even today. its not even that awesome"

 

"I never intended to say I have interest"

yeah exactly... and i never at any point said so... i however inferred that you didn't have any from what you said 

 

"because you find nothing of worth to discuss or be interested in does not mean that applies to others"

"Who are you talking to dude? I have interest in the game.   So why are you saying this? Just as an info?"

i said it because of what you said here... obviously "I dont get why people are discussing this even today. its not even that awesome"

 

"Well it was derived from what your EGO was seeing as an insult or whatever. And I had 1 comment before you replied not several commentS."

i wasn't only reffering to your comments obviously... thinking that is pretty egotistical wouldn't you say?

 

" You clearly didn't comment on what I said but on what YOU wanted to read."

nope as shown above that isn't the case...


Dude grow up... I wanted your strange behavior almost forces me to come back.  I was showing that I have no interest in derailing the thread again  but it seems that its doing it anyway so why should I stop if others keep going on. (sorry mods)

1.

  •  "well you did below..."

"I dont get why people are discussing THIS even today. its not even that awesome"  


The topic is  SCRIPTED OR NOT do you finally get it? That was what the THIS was talking about.
(Take reading lessons and not so much mind reader lessons will you?  I cannot spot  "GAME"  " LAST OF US"  or any other word that indicates I was talking about the game. I was talking about the topic  END OF STORY. 
If your brain cannot understand this  well  I am sorry. But stop telling me what I said even tho you can CLEARLY see that its not written there but your "brain" made it up. So stop lying dude lol.

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2. "I never intended to say I have interest"

  • "yeah exactly... and i never at any point said so... i however..."


Yeah exactly... and I never at any point said that you said so..........
(this part of my reply has as much value as the part I quoted  NONE. Just adding things that show you are right without any connection to the actual discussion etc is cheap dude.)

     " said so... i however inferred that you didn't have any from what you said"
You just said what I say the whole time YOU INFERRED that it has a meaning even tho it has none. You misinterpreted. Thank god you finally understand.
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3.

  • "i said it because of what you said here... obviously" 

You said it because of what you "thought" was there not because of what I wrote OBVIOUSLY you even agreed with me (see 2.) . Thats the point and you can Your ego just did not allow for the fact you made a mistake. Which is normal especially when the whole thing is a conversation/discussion with strangers on the web or in person thank god it thats not the case anymore.

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4. "Well it was derived from what your EGO was seeing as an insult or whatever. And I had 1 comment before you replied not several commentS."

  • "i wasn't only reffering to your comments obviously... thinking that is pretty egotistical wouldn't you say?"


Sure it would be egoistical to think so but thats not what happened.  You SAID
here

"what i've written was derived from>>>>> your comments<<<<<<....

"Your comments" with an S  is plural  (comment = singular   comments = plural)  so this is not a case of ME thinking you said something  but a case of me correctly reading what you wrote  its no case of misinterpreting  like you did.

Sure you also said it also derived from what others say  but that doesn't change the fact that use said I had several commentS (with an S). I did not quote the part of you talking about others comments because that is not related to me or my reply.

5.

" You clearly didn't comment on what I said but on what YOU wanted to read."

  • nope as shown above that isn't the case..

 Yup as shown above  all the stuff you said just shows that you are wrong.  Again I say something you misinterpret  I clarify it you keep going on about  how I wrote something (which is clearly not true or was written with invisible fontor whatever) etc.  So can we stop now?
_______

The whole quote shit is a mess (my fault lol)  and the off topic stuff is hilarious etc. but we all had our fun and our 5 minues of boredom management/anger management or whatever. So can we go on now?  This time I will def not come back because your reply in case of you still thinking you are right would just be a troll reply and thats not worth my time etc.

We both agree that we don't agree. Good for you good for me and even better for the thread.





CGI-Quality said:

Perception and reality don't have to be the same thing (in fact, they often times aren't) and you can't expect people to get what you mean if you say one thing and feel another (no mind readers here). What will be replied to is what you do talk about.

On the flip-side, I agree that it's off topic and am happy to oblige.


"Perception and reality don't have to be the same thing"

Thats what I said.

" and you can't expect people to get what you mean if you say one thing and feel another"

Totally true   I expect people to read what is written in front of their eyes not what they think is written there.

"(no mind readers here)"


Some people here act like mind readers

"What will be replied to is what you do talk about."

Too bad that was not the case.

Thanks for your reply. As stated above I will stop replying now. And I hope all of you do the same  for the threads sake.

I will play GuildWars2 now    have a nice weekend everyone.

P.S.  I hope the mods don't resent me for my replies but I will defend against allegations. Especially if I clarified something several times now.