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You're going to have to ask that differently, because the answer is exactly what I said.

If Stefl is town, then if pezus is lynched first it's not a 1 for 1 trade regardless of what pezus is. Either scum is lynched and he is likely never lynched. Or pezus is mislynched, and another mislynch is likely to follow. It's 1 for 0 or 0 for 2.



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I agree. I want to hear more from Mario and prof, much more.



Yes, I said that as well. But you can't say that his vote on pezus makes him mafia. That is what I meant by circular logic.



What you're saying is 'if Stefl is mafia, then he is voting pezus to get a 1 for 1 trade. Stefl has a vote on pezus; therefore, he is mafia trying to get a 1 for 1 trade.'

That would be fine if it's a biconditional, but that isn't the case since I've also shown how a town Stefl could reasonably have a vote on pezus.



Mafia, including pezus, could hope that the decision between pezus and Stefl is never made.



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Linkzmax said:
mantlepiecek said:
Linkzmax said:
mantlepiecek said:

I think soleron is town as well, my suspect list is now stefl, jo, one person whom I won't name. The fourth one I am not sure who he could be.

Assume I know who your unnamed person is, and I do otherwise he'd be your fourth "not sure" guy. Can you explain the connection to me? Otherwise, is "due time" toDay?

Well I don't understand your first question.

Yeah due time is (probably) today. It would be wiser to give away all my thoughts before night starts since it may/may not help the town; but if I die tonight then they wouldn't know it at all.

Well, I suppose I should ask if there even is a connection between j0, Stefl, and Mr. Tres first. I assumed there was, otherwise I don't see how you can make the leaps in logic that you did. If there is, then is it possible to explain said connection(s) or would you have to reveal Mr. Tres to do so?

I guess there is some kind of a connection but then again it's mostly based up on a couple of things like the said Mr. Tres's (what does it mean?) play style and circumstances.



mantlepiecek said:
Linkzmax said:
mantlepiecek said:
Linkzmax said:
mantlepiecek said:

I think soleron is town as well, my suspect list is now stefl, jo, one person whom I won't name. The fourth one I am not sure who he could be.

Assume I know who your unnamed person is, and I do otherwise he'd be your fourth "not sure" guy. Can you explain the connection to me? Otherwise, is "due time" toDay?

Well I don't understand your first question.

Yeah due time is (probably) today. It would be wiser to give away all my thoughts before night starts since it may/may not help the town; but if I die tonight then they wouldn't know it at all.

Well, I suppose I should ask if there even is a connection between j0, Stefl, and Mr. Tres first. I assumed there was, otherwise I don't see how you can make the leaps in logic that you did. If there is, then is it possible to explain said connection(s) or would you have to reveal Mr. Tres to do so?

I guess there is some kind of a connection but then again it's mostly based up on a couple of things like the said Mr. Tres's (what does it mean?) play style and circumstances

Mr. Three



mantlepiecek said:
Yoshiya said:
Linkzmax said:
Yoshiya said:
Linkzmax said:

Speaking of the day dragging. You ought to pick a direction you think the day should go in before voting for a time limit. That would do more to help make something actually happen.

Sorry, you're right about this ><

I'd agree with you on a Mantle lynch thus far. It just seems really weird that he has this information that he seems to be so certain about and yet doesn't want to tell us... If he is planning on telling us anyway I don't see how telling us earlier in the Day will have anything to do with whether or not he gets killed at night because if the information is that good (maybe it relies on him being a certain role, of which I can't be sure as I can only be sure that one role belongs to one group and it isn't the Pinkie Pie group), then he will be killed anyway. The only thing I can think that explains this is that he doesn't have anything yet. Simple as that. I believe he is currently trying to come up with something that seems like it will stick at the moment, potentially with whatever mafia buddies he has as I believe they are probably conversing now.

If Mantle fails to give a good reason as to why he is withholding this information I will cast my vote then and there.

HoS: Mantle

Not yet, Yoshiya. You can vote if you want.

*sigh* Why do you have to be like this Mantle? Well, can't really go back on my word, especially since I am super suspicious over this reason for why you holding back.

Vote:Mantle



Just checking in. Sorry I've been away so much. I suck at coding :D

Anyhoo, just as a cursory glancing, I feel like zero is copying spurge for some reason. Spurge was called town by (pezus?) after his first big post, so maybe zero is using that?

Other than that, my opinions haven't changed all that much.
I do agree with spurge's analysis that linkz is town. In fact there's a couple things he says day 1 that I've checked on very recently that point town to me as well that I don't think was really covered in the analysis post.



I have been following the thread, but I haven't seen anything that I specifically wanted to comment on - I guess I could mention that my suspicion of Spurge has gone for now, due to that impressive set of analyses - as far as the analysis itself goes, I'm going to agree with Prof that Spurge has made a good argument suggesting that Linkz is probably town; this was my general feeling anyway, however



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