zero129 said: ~quote~
@2. I'm not going to go back and dig up the posts now myself, but can you please show me how them posts where relevant to my point?. What did you want me to do? link every post you made up to that point?, People where complaining about spurge making long posts like that and including stuff that he didnt need to make his point, so i didnt see any reason why i needed to when like i said, any other post you made was not relevant to my point, but like i said if you would like to share them posts your more then welcome?.
@3 Yes something did change your mind. Now the question is what got you to change you mind?, If you felt strong about the lynch why didnt you go for it right away?, i mean if you where going to cast it anyway why wait?.
Also to your question about pezus. the reason im not going after him is simple and i already said this to linkz too. He has enough heat on him already where as you have pretty much none.
you had only 1 vote against you, pezus has something like 3 , so how is more people suspecting you? . I also dont like how you like to answer questions with questions that just makes you look real bad imo, especially when pezus has been so stright forward with everyone with his answers.
"why are you pushing so strong for the idea that there have to be scum in each pool? Now something completely else: Could it be that you know that there is no scum in our pool?"
Its funny you ask me that question when you you're self was willing to vote inside your own group. So if you think your group is so innocent why vote for pezus?, so why where you pushing so strong that scum had to be in your group. But yes good job once again trying to turn this back around on me, your sinking lower and lower for me.
"the only other person voicing suspicion on pezus on day 2 is mario, who himself, is on my scumlist, so his opinion is pretty much ignored by me on others as long as he doesn't flip, in fact, on day 2, people where much more vocal on j0, and radish (who is probably town) on me."
If thats the case like i said up above how come pezus has 3 votes against him and you only 1? as can be seen here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4759685 .
Hmm are you getting worried about something?, are you being taking out of your comfort zone?, cos you seemed very releaxed before and now you're making mistakes.
"Also, other than that, you completely ignore the fact that I called out pezus for one of the scummiest persons arround already on day 1, even calling out why."
Why is that relevant to what we are now saying?. If they where important i would of included them. Also it would be nice if you used links when you are saying stuff like that so i could see what posts you are talking about.
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Good, if you are not willing to look back, I was looking back yesterday, and you surely should get your points straight if you want to cast suspicion on me. (@2)
I was not asking you what you think about people being innocent/scum in our group, I was asking if you KNOW that there is no scum in our group. That is something completely else then what you answered.
To me voting for pezus and your question, if I knew there was no scum in my group, hell no I would not vote for pezus, but I don't know it and as the situation is, in fact, I would be pushing for a lynch in any other group because if you look at the amount of players left, there isn't that much left for scum to win. Being uncomfortable with something does not mean one should not pull through.
I did not change my mind, I was planning to vote for him when I made the first post, but held the vote back. Why wait you ask? Simply, because there is no reason to rush it, you know, you can reevaluate stuff before you do it, and I was doing it, the reevaluation did not sway me from what I was planning to do. Once again you claim I changed my mind, when I already said I didn't, you can interpret stuff, you can call me a liar on this, but don't rinse and repeat the same claim over and over again, without even reading (or maybe you are just ignoring) what I said.
I wont give you any quotes if you are to lazy to build decent arguments (and if you are leaving out stuff from arguments), I won't do your job when you are failing at a scumhunt.
To analyse what I said here:
"the only other person voicing suspicion on pezus on day 2 is mario, who himself, is on my scumlist, so his opinion is pretty much ignored by me on others as long as he doesn't flip, in fact, on day 2, people where much more vocal on j0, and radish (who is probably town) on me."
There are people who were much more vocal on j0, and there was radish who was vocal on me. Also, mario voiced his suspicion on pezus.
AND you are lying, when I voted, there was one vote on pezus (marios) and one vote on j0 (mantles), and with lying you are actually steering yourself into my comfort zone. When you want to see me outside of my comfort zone, ask hatmoza or prof on how to do it, and don't try to make points by guessing, ignorance and lying. Well, just to prove that it wasn't 3 votes (or something around 3 votes) on pezus when I voted, why not quote everything that was said on day 2 before I voted? (Then you can also have a nice look on who people said they are suspicious of)
Post 1 Day 2 by Mario (his instavote on pezus)
Post 2 Day 2 by Linkz (saying he is okay with a pezus lynch) - okay I grant you that much, this can be interpreted as voicing his suspicion. Though this does not necessarily is true in this case.
Post 3 Day 2 by mante (voting j0) - there is a small scum list beneath that also includes pezus, but strangely enough also you, so let's just debunk this one, because that list ahs to be trash (or did he nail it? strange similarities in your and radishs opinion on me) - also this is based on teh flavourz
Post 4 Day 2 by Linkz - not really something to mention there
Post 5 Day 2 by mario
Post 6 Day 2 by mantle - pezus gets mentioned here, mantle is suspicious of him because of day 1 stuff, though he is the last on his list (also this once again probably only means that pezus over me in terms of suspicion and flavourhunt instead of scumhunt)
Post 7 Day 2 by radish - checking in
Post 8 Day 2 by radish - diverting from pezus onto me, telling that I can play good scum. (btw, thanks for the compliment again~)
Post 9 Day 2 by yoshiya - saying that I am more suspicious than pezus
Post 10 Day 2 by Stefl1504 - me making my first post on day two, the one were I said I am insecure, but willing to lynch pezus
Post 11 Day 2 by yoshiya - agreeing with my doubts on the mafia reducing a small group
Post 12 Day 2 by spurge - talking about getting no read on me and radish, also stuff about rereading pezus
My vote on pezus comes next.
So we had a voiced suspicion spread of:
2 Stefl 2 Pezus 1 j0 - (I have to admit, I was remembering people being more active regarding j0, but I was also expecting more than 20 posts before my first post, got some posts messed up.)
and nowhere near the 4 votes (~3 on pezus and 1 on me) you claimed there to be when I voted, not even one on me, there were 2, one on pez, one on j0.
Again get your facts straight before doing stuff.
Also, looking at stuff, I am swayed to believe there might be a zero/radish/pezus/someone scumgroup. Sadly, linkz radishdar says that radish does not look scum, and I put my trust into that, so I am still going for my initial list.
(btw. zero, you made me realise that pezus/mario are unlikely both scum, thank you for that)