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Linkzmax said:
Oh. Soleron withdrew.(FF's wall)

"And I promise not to quit guys, I'm sorry. I got some experience in on another site so I can actually play this game now."

Anyways, let us hope he is mafia.




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mantlepiecek said:

I think soleron is town as well, my suspect list is now stefl, jo, one person whom I won't name. The fourth one I am not sure who he could be.

Assume I know who your unnamed person is, and I do otherwise he'd be your fourth "not sure" guy. Can you explain the connection to me? Otherwise, is "due time" toDay?



After spending the early part of the day puzzling over the mysterious disappearance of hatmoza, someone noticed that Soleron was nowhere to be found either. Could TWO of the townsfolk have disappeared in one night?

It wasn't too long before someone solved this second mystery though. Soleron was found in a corner, surrounded by muffin wrappers. His distended stomach told the tale. When questioned, he could only groan, "Muffins..."

Well, it looks like this one was Derpy Hooves, a simple townie and not one of the Elements. Soleron has been modkilled.



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Hooray flavor =) Boo Soleron =(



I wish you good luck spurge. That is quite a monumental task.

While you're here,(I hope you're still here, I don't want to talk to myself) who is your biggest town read, and why?



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zero129 said:
Yoshiya said:
Zero I have already explained this before but it looks like I will have to do it again for the sake of us non-Americans. We are not in the same time zone as you. When the game started it was already the 26th for us anyway. About 1 o'clock for us UK residents which would make Austria (where Stefl lives) about 3 o'clock in the morning. In the future please don't even bother mentioning this because as it holds absolutely no value and annoys me slightly.

yoshi i have a question for you. Since you know radish in real life, have you been talking to him about this game?.

Ofc not that would be cheating.

As to linkz, I will answer you but not now, get ready for school so I am not in a position to analyse anything at the moment.



zero129 said:
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@2. I'm not going to go back and dig up the posts now myself, but can you please show me how them posts where relevant to my point?. What did you want me to do? link every post you made up to that point?, People where complaining about spurge making long posts like that and including stuff that he didnt need to make his point, so i didnt see any reason why i needed to when like i said, any other post you made was not relevant to my point, but like i said if you would like to share them posts your more then welcome?.

@3 Yes something did change your mind. Now the question is what got you to change you mind?, If you felt strong about the lynch why didnt you go for it right away?, i mean if you where going to cast it anyway why wait?.

Also to your question about pezus. the reason im not going after him is simple and i already said this to linkz too. He has enough heat on him already where as you have pretty much none.

you had only 1 vote against you, pezus has something like 3 , so how is more people suspecting you? . I also dont like how you like to answer questions with questions that just makes you look real bad imo, especially when pezus has been so stright forward with everyone with his answers.

"why are you pushing so strong for the idea that there have to be scum in each pool? Now something completely else: Could it be that you know that there is no scum in our pool?"

Its funny you ask me that question when you you're self was willing to vote inside your own group. So if you think your group is so innocent why vote for pezus?, so why where you pushing so strong that scum had to be in your group.  But yes good job once again trying to turn this back around on me, your sinking lower and lower for me.

"the only other person voicing suspicion on pezus on day 2 is mario, who himself, is on my scumlist, so his opinion is pretty much ignored by me on others as long as he doesn't flip, in fact, on day 2, people where much more vocal on j0, and radish (who is probably town) on me."

If thats the case like i said up above how come pezus has 3 votes against him and you only 1? as can be seen here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4759685 .

Hmm are you getting worried about something?, are you being taking out of your comfort zone?, cos you seemed very releaxed before and now you're making mistakes.

 

"Also, other than that, you completely ignore the fact that I called out pezus for one of the scummiest persons arround already on day 1, even calling out why."

Why is that relevant to what we are now saying?. If they where important i would of included them. Also it would be nice if you used links when you are saying stuff like that so i could see what posts you are talking about.

Good, if you are not willing to look back, I was looking back yesterday, and you surely should get your points straight if you want to cast suspicion on me. (@2)

I was not asking you what you think about people being innocent/scum in our group, I was asking if you KNOW that there is no scum in our group. That is something completely else then what you answered.

To me voting for pezus and your question, if I knew there was no scum in my group, hell no I would not vote for pezus, but I don't know it and as the situation is, in fact, I would be pushing for a lynch in any other group because if you look at the amount of players left, there isn't that much left for scum to win. Being uncomfortable with something does not mean one should not pull through.

I did not change my mind, I was planning to vote for him when I made the first post, but held the vote back. Why wait you ask? Simply, because there is no reason to rush it, you know, you can reevaluate stuff before you do it, and I was doing it, the reevaluation did not sway me from what I was planning to do. Once again you claim I changed my mind, when I already said I didn't, you can interpret stuff, you can call me a liar on this, but don't rinse and repeat the same claim over and over again, without even reading (or maybe you are just ignoring) what I said.

I wont give you any quotes if you are to lazy to build decent arguments (and if you are leaving out stuff from arguments), I won't do your job when you are failing at a scumhunt.

To analyse what I said here:

"the only other person voicing suspicion on pezus on day 2 is mario, who himself, is on my scumlist, so his opinion is pretty much ignored by me on others as long as he doesn't flip, in fact, on day 2, people where much more vocal on j0, and radish (who is probably town) on me."

There are people who were much more vocal on j0, and there was radish who was vocal on me. Also, mario voiced his suspicion on pezus.

AND you are lying, when I voted, there was one vote on pezus (marios) and one vote on j0 (mantles), and with lying you are actually steering yourself into my comfort zone. When you want to see me outside of my comfort zone, ask hatmoza or prof on how to do it, and don't try to make points by guessing, ignorance and lying. Well, just to prove that it wasn't 3 votes (or something around 3 votes) on pezus when I voted, why not quote everything that was said on day 2 before I voted? (Then you can also have a nice look on who people said they are suspicious of)

Post 1 Day 2 by Mario (his instavote on pezus)

Post 2 Day 2 by Linkz (saying he is okay with a pezus lynch) - okay I grant you that much, this can be interpreted as voicing his suspicion. Though this does not necessarily is true in this case.

Post 3 Day 2 by mante (voting j0) - there is a small scum list beneath that also includes pezus, but strangely enough also you, so let's just debunk this one, because that list ahs to be trash (or did he nail it? strange similarities in your and radishs opinion on me) - also this is based on teh flavourz

Post 4 Day 2 by Linkz - not really something to mention there

Post 5 Day 2 by mario

Post 6 Day 2 by mantle - pezus gets mentioned here, mantle is suspicious of him because of day 1 stuff, though he is the last on his list (also this once again probably only means that pezus over me in terms of suspicion and flavourhunt instead of scumhunt)

Post 7 Day 2 by radish - checking in

Post 8 Day 2 by radish - diverting from pezus onto me, telling that I can play good scum. (btw, thanks for the compliment again~)

Post 9 Day 2 by yoshiya - saying that I am more suspicious than pezus

Post 10 Day 2 by Stefl1504 - me making my first post on day two, the one were I said I am insecure, but willing to lynch pezus

Post 11 Day 2 by yoshiya - agreeing with my doubts on the mafia reducing a small group

Post 12 Day 2 by spurge - talking about getting no read on me and radish, also stuff about rereading pezus

My vote on pezus comes next.

So we had a voiced suspicion spread of:

2 Stefl 2 Pezus 1 j0 - (I have to admit, I was remembering people being more active regarding j0, but I was also expecting more than 20 posts before my first post, got some posts messed up.)

and nowhere near the 4 votes (~3 on pezus and 1 on me) you claimed there to be when I voted, not even one on me, there were 2, one on pez, one on j0.

Again get your facts straight before doing stuff.

Also, looking at stuff, I am swayed to believe there might be a zero/radish/pezus/someone scumgroup. Sadly, linkz radishdar says that radish does not look scum, and I put my trust into that, so I am still going for my initial list.

(btw. zero, you made me realise that pezus/mario are unlikely both scum, thank you for that)



Linkzmax said:
mantlepiecek said:

I think soleron is town as well, my suspect list is now stefl, jo, one person whom I won't name. The fourth one I am not sure who he could be.

Assume I know who your unnamed person is, and I do otherwise he'd be your fourth "not sure" guy. Can you explain the connection to me? Otherwise, is "due time" toDay?

Well I don't understand your first question.

Yeah due time is (probably) today. It would be wiser to give away all my thoughts before night starts since it may/may not help the town; but if I die tonight then they wouldn't know it at all.



Linkzmax said:
Yoshiya said:
Linkzmax said:
Well that's very lacking of any opinion.

Radish seems to be an expert on that. He will say you have a point but then make that moot by saying the point might not be worth anything. Doesn't really reek of mafia to me as I'll admit this is one place where being real life friends has given me an advantage, ie. he is like that a lot.

Ahhh, I was unaware.

Well then, how about your opinion on the matter?

I read through the post multiple times and well...all it did was hurt my brain trying to work out your point. You have shown that Mantle was buddying up to hat which people have already voiced concern over but apart from that I don't see much else to it. Ofc buddying up is a mafia thing to do from what I can work out but I'm not going to go around throwing suspicion on him based off that. I do find it kind of weird that he is withholding information that he clearly thinks will help town. If he is planning on telling us it toDay then why hasn't he come out with it already? If he is afraid of being murdered he will be no matter whether he tells us now or later on in the Day and as such I want him to tell us what he thinks he knows now.

As for my other thoughts at the moment all I can really say is that I am pretty sure zero isn't mafia. Whilst his posts seem rushed he is making an effort to reply to all of them and he seems determined to chase people even if his efforts aren't necessarily garnering attention from the rest of the players which if he was mafia I am pretty sure he would simply decide on another player to try and chase up. Spurge and Stefl also get a mention because they seem to be putting a lot of work into their posts in making sure they find all the links as does Linkz who seems to be trying hard to get something on Mantle.

I also agree with Radish on a time limit actually. Nothing new seems to be coming up at all and arguments seem to be simply rehased in order to try and pressure someone. The time limit doesn't have to be soon (personally I think Friday/Saturday would be good) but we definately need something to make sure something actually happens rather than descending into a spiralling pit of accusations that will never get anywhere.

Vote: Impose Time Limit



Your re-read on linkz has been really useful tbh. Helped to give me a lot better feeling about him than before. I might do something on j0 at some point toDay (not necessarily now, I have bits and pieces I need to sort out such as potentially dropping subjects), will help to give me a better feeling about who I am up against in my own group.

Also, I'd add to like something I have noticed about Radish. I don't really have any evidence to support it it is just more a feeling I have but he seems to be playing with the idea of posting in a townie fashion and then saying one or two things to increase suspicion on him before playing townie again. Just seems to be something I have picked up on that is causing me to look at him in a more townie way. Ofc it would be great if he wouldn't do this so I could get a proper read on him if it is on purpose -.-

Current town list in order of trust; Zero, Spurge, Linkz, Radish
Current mafia list (no order); j0 (purely because someone in my group is likely to be mafia), Mantle (same reason but with the Pinkie Pie group)