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theprof00 on 03 September 2012
mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:

Hey mantle, sorry if this was asked before. What was it that you noticed about Hat that made you think town?

Hat attacked mario with a post back in day 1. The attack was what made me notice he is town.

Yes I've read the content after I noticed you had addressed it. 

However, I still had some questions, like what is it about Hat attacking Mario that made you think that?

His post seemed genuine to me. A genuine question. I figured if he wanted to mislynch mario he wouldn't use something that has proof against already, but he didn't know it.

A) that is information known post you possibly knowing the proof- or did you mean,'thinking about it now'?

B) Keep in mind, mantle, that I still figure you for town. I just want to check on some things because I've noticed some patterns.
Now then. I noticed you were suspicious of Mario. A lot of your posts were actually addressing mario at that time. There was even a post wherein you made a post against mario and then voted radish (which I know all the circumstances of, thanks). It does seem like you have mario on the brain, though it appears you were more able to identify someone else's tunneling (spurge) and not your own?



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theprof00 on 03 September 2012
Linkzmax said:
Way to go prof! I'll let you have the honors.

Let me take my expert brain a second and guess that you've had a drink tonight, sir? :D



mantlepiecek on 03 September 2012
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:

His post seemed genuine to me. A genuine question. I figured if he wanted to mislynch mario he wouldn't use something that has proof against already, but he didn't know it.

A) that is information known post you possibly knowing the proof- or did you mean,'thinking about it now'?

B) Keep in mind, mantle, that I still figure you for town. I just want to check on some things because I've noticed some patterns.
Now then. I noticed you were suspicious of Mario. A lot of your posts were actually addressing mario at that time. There was even a post wherein you made a post against mario and then voted radish (which I know all the circumstances of, thanks). It does seem like you have mario on the brain, though it appears you were more able to identify someone else's tunneling (spurge) and not your own?

I don't think it was mario. It was hat I was addressing and I voted radish.

Mario has been clean in my list or at least neutral throughout day 1.



mantlepiecek on 03 September 2012
theprof00 said:

A) that is information known post you possibly knowing the proof- or did you mean,'thinking about it now'?

B) Keep in mind, mantle, that I still figure you for town. I just want to check on some things because I've noticed some patterns.
Now then. I noticed you were suspicious of Mario. A lot of your posts were actually addressing mario at that time. There was even a post wherein you made a post against mario and then voted radish (which I know all the circumstances of, thanks). It does seem like you have mario on the brain, though it appears you were more able to identify someone else's tunneling (spurge) and not your own?

As for a) yeah, I knew the proof at that time.



Linkzmax on 03 September 2012
theprof00 said:
Linkzmax said:
Way to go prof! I'll let you have the honors.

Let me take my expert brain a second and guess that you've had a drink tonight, sir? :D

Nope. I'm waiting, but if you delay for too long I'm going to feel bad.



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theprof00 on 03 September 2012
mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:

His post seemed genuine to me. A genuine question. I figured if he wanted to mislynch mario he wouldn't use something that has proof against already, but he didn't know it.

A) that is information known post you possibly knowing the proof- or did you mean,'thinking about it now'?

B) Keep in mind, mantle, that I still figure you for town. I just want to check on some things because I've noticed some patterns.
Now then. I noticed you were suspicious of Mario. A lot of your posts were actually addressing mario at that time. There was even a post wherein you made a post against mario and then voted radish (which I know all the circumstances of, thanks). It does seem like you have mario on the brain, though it appears you were more able to identify someone else's tunneling (spurge) and not your own?

I don't think it was mario. It was hat I was addressing and I voted radish.

Mario has been clean in my list or at least neutral throughout day 1.

You're right, that was hat. Sry-

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744617
In this post, after being accused of buddying, you respond that you were not buddying due to the fact that you were questioning Mario as well.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744721
In this post you say there is no reason for Mario to know about a third party. You just said above that you knew the proof at a reasonably early point in the thread. Page 2 or so.



mantlepiecek on 03 September 2012
c03n3nj0 said:
mantlepiecek said:

All right. I didn't actually address this post completely last time.

Bold1:

That's not what I said. I said I feel Jo is scum and hat thinks so too, so I feel good about Hat.

So yes, I didn't have complete faith in hat. However I saw his line of thinking, and felt he was town as a result. My sense has been good this game, I thought hat was town by his first few posts itself and he got killed night 1 itself, albeit for different reasons.

If I was buddying up bad why didn't you address it before, like others were?

I think soleron is town as well, my suspect list is now stefl, jo, one person whom I won't name. The fourth one I am not sure who he could be.

Here's my observation guys :

If Conj is scum,

Mario is town.

Zero is town.

Why? I am not going to say it yet. Unlike normal circumstances this is even more complicated.

No, no. Please say it!

I don't want to ignore this post of you just stating suspects without reasoning behind it. Because I think you'll use that against me. 

Seriously, mantle, choosing not to reveal the reason of your suspicions does not change things from what you were doing before. This post holds nothing of value in terms of scum-hunting. Not revealing any evidence and simply stating suspects is not scum-hunting... it's pretending to scum-hunt. 

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If you actually read by vote on Noctis post from yesterday, you would realize that I was trying to focus on him to get the town on moving on from the meta-debates. Bringing up that you were buddying up to hatmoza was pretty useless to my point. I was doing something else at the time and wanted to focus on that. 

I bring up the buddying now because it's actually relevant to the topic. The topic is you this time. 

Well, the correct answer to the evidence question would be that your behaviour throughout day 1 has been scummy. Something I was busy noting when I was attacking radish.

On your second part of the post:

Why did you decide on focusing on Noctis when you thought I was buddying up to hat?



theprof00 on 03 September 2012
Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:
Linkzmax said:
Way to go prof! I'll let you have the honors.

Let me take my expert brain a second and guess that you've had a drink tonight, sir? :D

Nope. I'm waiting, but if you delay for too long I'm going to feel bad.

Please just tell me what you're thinking. I'm not even 3 pages in with note-taking and there is going to be a delay.



mantlepiecek on 03 September 2012
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:

His post seemed genuine to me. A genuine question. I figured if he wanted to mislynch mario he wouldn't use something that has proof against already, but he didn't know it.

A) that is information known post you possibly knowing the proof- or did you mean,'thinking about it now'?

B) Keep in mind, mantle, that I still figure you for town. I just want to check on some things because I've noticed some patterns.
Now then. I noticed you were suspicious of Mario. A lot of your posts were actually addressing mario at that time. There was even a post wherein you made a post against mario and then voted radish (which I know all the circumstances of, thanks). It does seem like you have mario on the brain, though it appears you were more able to identify someone else's tunneling (spurge) and not your own?

I don't think it was mario. It was hat I was addressing and I voted radish.

Mario has been clean in my list or at least neutral throughout day 1.

You're right, that was hat. Sry-

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744617
In this post, after being accused of buddying, you respond that you were not buddying due to the fact that you were questioning Mario as well.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744721
In this post you say there is no reason for Mario to know about a third party. You just said above that you knew the proof at a reasonably early point in the thread. Page 2 or so.

Are you expecting some answer?

The first one was a confusion btw. Linkz addressed it as well.



theprof00 on 03 September 2012
mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:
mantlepiecek said:

His post seemed genuine to me. A genuine question. I figured if he wanted to mislynch mario he wouldn't use something that has proof against already, but he didn't know it.

A) that is information known post you possibly knowing the proof- or did you mean,'thinking about it now'?

B) Keep in mind, mantle, that I still figure you for town. I just want to check on some things because I've noticed some patterns.
Now then. I noticed you were suspicious of Mario. A lot of your posts were actually addressing mario at that time. There was even a post wherein you made a post against mario and then voted radish (which I know all the circumstances of, thanks). It does seem like you have mario on the brain, though it appears you were more able to identify someone else's tunneling (spurge) and not your own?

I don't think it was mario. It was hat I was addressing and I voted radish.

Mario has been clean in my list or at least neutral throughout day 1.

You're right, that was hat. Sry-

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744617
In this post, after being accused of buddying, you respond that you were not buddying due to the fact that you were questioning Mario as well.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744721
In this post you say there is no reason for Mario to know about a third party. You just said above that you knew the proof at a reasonably early point in the thread. Page 2 or so.

Are you expecting some answer?

The first one was a confusion btw. Linkz addressed it as well.

I'll just get to my point since, this line of questioning seems like it's not leading anywhere. It is in my opinion that you were suspicious of Mario after his meta thing. Shortly after Hatmoza did the same. You then said that Hat was definitely town and started moving your suspicions away from Mario and at Radish, who as I mentioned previously was an easy target for suspicion. You reinforced several of Hat's arguments but kept your attention away from Mario.

Then you were called on your support for Hat by Linkz, and you made a quick reversal of your opinion, with Hat actually starting to become a suspect of yours.


Further, just in our exchanges recently, you said " I figured if he wanted to mislynch mario he wouldn't use something that has proof against already, but he didn't know it." I asked for clarification because nobody knew the proof until later on. You clarified that you knew the proof right away. Yet several of your initial posts against Mario are leading questions revolving around Mario's meta.