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Yoshiya said:
radishhead said:
spurgeonryan said:
radishhead said:
I'm finding it really difficult to decide between j0 and mantle - although j0 is playing more calmly and rationally, that doesn't make him instantly town - people make their points in different ways. As for the pezus/stefl war, I'm still saying that stefl is the one to lynch here to far.


Really? I got that he was less calmly, but failry rational. I will say that.

 

I am finding it hard to read stefl, and will try to do better in my re-read. What makes him stand out to you? I am sure you have mentioned bits and pieces in the past but could you do a write up of what you think about him? Maybe 4-5 points on why you are leaning towards him.

It's not really about why I think stef is mafia, rather that I think pezus is town. He's responded to all questioning really well, his stance that even he doesn't seem to think that stefl is mafia is something that I can't see a mafia-aligned person trying, and he hasn't been hiding in the background at all- always making relevent points (wow, I'm going to pull back before it sounds like I'm defending him too much haha) - but unlike Pezus, I believe that there has to be a mafia in the rarity group.

Vote: Stefl

Any reason for this?

4 mafia works perfectly in a 15 player game, and 4 mafia works perfectly considering we're looking for 4 ponies. Since each group is evenly distributed, there almost certainly won't be two mafia in the same group



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pezus said:
supermario128 said:
pezus said:

Mario, I must say this but you are goddamn irritating. Imagine how I feel when every round you are "pretty sure I am scum". Last round you were around 95 or 99% sure. I was town. This round you are pretty sure. Surely you should have figured out you read me wrong most of the time by now?

Ok, stefl is not mafia. I can say I suspect that as well. So we are two townies being pushed for a mislynch. 

Yup, I am terrible at reading you. I admit that. It isn't that you are playing any differently this round. It is just that either you or stefl is mafia. Of the two I'm going to have to say it is you. For some reason you are pretty sure you are both townies though. Why is that? Do you know something we don't? If I were you I would be pretty sure Stefl was mafia, but you are not. Unless someone lied and you guys were set up then you are in fact mafia. If I'm wrong about you then sorry in advance, but I'm pretty sure I am right. :P

Bold: Now you're putting words into my mouth (my keyboard). Lol, this is just hilarious to see from where I am because I know for a fact that I'm town yet you keep saying you're pretty sure.

And I am not you, mario, obviously. This is likely a setup, don't be so naive to think that it's so cut and dry

Don't be a dingbat. You "know" you are town, and yet you're pretty sure Stefl is a townie also.

You were fairly supportive of The Plan yesterDay, so why not lynch Stefl? It's cause you know his flip is going to lead to yours, isn't it? ISN'T IT!?
But yeah, what's your opinion on j0, yoshi, and I again?



Since you hate blue icons: "I can see why pezus would say this still to save his own self. It will look good on him if we lynch stefl and stefl is town."

It's still not going to look good when he's the only non-town in the group, but delaying the decision between them keeps that situation from happening.



Soleron said:

Just idling the 72 hours away until you're modkilled?



pezus said:
radishhead said:
spurgeonryan said:
radishhead said:
I'm finding it really difficult to decide between j0 and mantle - although j0 is playing more calmly and rationally, that doesn't make him instantly town - people make their points in different ways. As for the pezus/stefl war, I'm still saying that stefl is the one to lynch here to far.


Really? I got that he was less calmly, but failry rational. I will say that.

 

I am finding it hard to read stefl, and will try to do better in my re-read. What makes him stand out to you? I am sure you have mentioned bits and pieces in the past but could you do a write up of what you think about him? Maybe 4-5 points on why you are leaning towards him.

It's not really about why I think stef is mafia, rather that I think pezus is town. He's responded to all questioning really well, his stance that even he doesn't seem to think that stefl is mafia is something that I can't see a mafia-aligned person trying, and he hasn't been hiding in the background at all- always making relevent points (wow, I'm going to pull back before it sounds like I'm defending him too much haha) - but unlike Pezus, I believe that there has to be a mafia in the rarity group.

Vote: Stefl

Don't do this to me Radish. Explain why that has to be so?

4 mafia works perfectly in a 15 player game, and 4 mafia works perfectly considering we're looking for 4 ponies. Since each group is evenly distributed, there almost certainly won't be two mafia in the same group 



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pezus, are you getting around to answering me or just missed the post?



mantlepiecek said:
~quote~

All right. I didn't actually address this post completely last time.

Bold1:

That's not what I said. I said I feel Jo is scum and hat thinks so too, so I feel good about Hat.

So yes, I didn't have complete faith in hat. However I saw his line of thinking, and felt he was town as a result. My sense has been good this game, I thought hat was town by his first few posts itself and he got killed night 1 itself, albeit for different reasons.

If I was buddying up bad why didn't you address it before, like others were?

I think soleron is town as well, my suspect list is now stefl, jo, one person whom I won't name. The fourth one I am not sure who he could be.

Here's my observation guys :

If Conj is scum,

Mario is town.

Zero is town.

Why? I am not going to say it yet. Unlike normal circumstances this is even more complicated.

sorry, i don't get how you can get to the result of mario being town without suffering from heavy... wait forget that, that would be an insult.

Anyway, regarding on who has not really spoken his mind:

prof, I would like to hear from you a bit more please.



spurgeonryan said:
I agree with Stefl. If the prof ( what a horrible name to deal with) and soleron are not careful they will be mod killed. One post every 72 hours is lame. Take a coffe break and stop by. As for Soleron I have seen him around. Probably in the pnoy thread and a few others.

It's not only the weekend, but a holiday weekend for the US, so I expect less activity than usual right now. Even still, prof did drop in for a few posts toDay, and hasn't been busy elsewhere. The same cannot be said for Mr. " Establish a constructive town environment".



Soleron said:

Your goals as town day 1 could be summarised as:

1) Establish a constructive town environment
2) Establish yourself as town
3) Find mafia

I'd say in that order of priority. I understand you are new but even if you can't make good reads you can achieve 1 and 2 easily with some thoughtful posting. I have no idea how well you are doing at 3 but that's not relevant.

And while it's on my mind. This bothered me. Establishing yourself as town should rarely be a townie's concern, but it is something mafia attempt. Townies are to scumhunt, scumhunt, scumhunt, and by doing so will either be killed at night or hopefully not be mislynched during the day. Mafia can't actually scumhunt, and if they did a really good job of pretending, then the question would arise of why they're not dead.



pezus said:
Linkzmax said:

Don't be a dingbat. You "know" you are town, and yet you're pretty sure Stefl is a townie also.

You were fairly supportive of The Plan yesterDay, so why not lynch Stefl? It's cause you know his flip is going to lead to yours, isn't it? ISN'T IT!?
But yeah, what's your opinion on j0, yoshi, and I again?

I will have to do a re-read of yoshi when I have more time, but so far I remember him being very clear, logical and he acts like a towny should. His play almost seems too good for a first timer.

You are hard to read, so just the same as before. I still maintain that you haven't been suspecting the right people, but that's something everyone does anyway. I just have higher standards for you than most people here I guess. Last game you made some mistakes as well and you were a townie. 

Actually, I can not tell if your post here was 100% serious or on the jokey side. Haven't seen you this dramatic before.

The ISN'T IT part is a bit jokey, but I do think it's the case that you're trying to delay the choice between the two of you because it will mean you're lynched either way.

Also, if you believe Stefl is town, and don't have a strong opinion of any of us being mafia, then that means there's 4 mafia out of the other 7 players. So I'm curious what your take is on that.