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Linkzmax on 02 September 2012
pezus said:
Linkzmax said:
c03n3nj0 said:

Here's why you slipped up: 

Your day 2 vote on me is bullshit and you know it. You want to twist the idea away from the suspicions you had on day 1 into the one where I'm scum because I didn't confront you. 

@Pezus

You waited for this for however long, and never actually commented on it specifically, only mentioning the post in general.

This isn't a slip, though mantle's stated reason isn't very strong either. I am one to usually brush off "I think Linkz is scum" comments that don't have reason or even weak reasons. However, if I am interested enough to ask for reasons from someone, I wouldn't be content with an "I don't wanna".

He made a good post, put a lot of work into it, which made me think of him more as a towny. On the other hand, there is really no new revelation of evidence per se against mantle, and that is something I was hoping for since he voted him and told us to wait for his explanation. 

It was a good post,(and far easier to read than spurgewalls :P) but I don't think it was so much work that it points to town. I believe j0 is good enough and has the will to win that he would put that together if he's mafia as well.

But yes, there isn't really new evidence and the explanation was lacking. But your reaction didn't reflect that.

pezus said:
Thanks for the long post, j0. It gives me a much better vibe from you for sure. I guess if mantle is mafia, he sees you as an easy mislynch in the future and puts me at the low end of his suspicions so he does not look as scummy in the future...

Rather you imply mantle is scum going for an easy mislynch with j0. And if you couple that with your thoughts on zero and radish, he's 0 for 4. I'm partly on your list for lynching Noctis and being okay with your lynch, but it took you until now to point that finger.



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Linkzmax on 02 September 2012
pezus said:
Linkzmax said:
pezus said:

"Ping radish as town" "ping" "ping" I see you using that word a lot.

I'm fairly sure the only one I "ping" is radish, and it's a reference to the scum "radar" or scumdar. He's the only one that I can almost always nail as town or scum off of a few posts. He's played quite differently this round, more down the middle. I leaned town by the end of Day 1, and when I re-read the first page "slip" of his with knowledge of the Elements, he wasn't contradictory at all with his question(even as a joke) towards Noctis and his stance that nameclaiming could expose power roles.

Alright, even though you only "ping" radish, you know what I mean by that don't you? Noctis, me. What do you think about stefl again?

Well now I do. Would you like to see last game about how off I can be?

I can admit Noctis was more of a policy lynch than a "he's scum, kill it" and I have no regrets even though he flipped Deputy. You aren't proven town, so that can't be chalked up as anything. I told you I don't have any paranoia of Stefl playing a good scum game.



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Stefl1504 on 02 September 2012

Stefl1504 said:

~cookies.. umm... quote~

I can easily point to the fact that pez is the only one remaining in my group, I have a hunch that this could be a neat set up for a double mislynch, but at least the general information gathered should be worth the risk taken.


To further specify, if one of us flips town the other will have a harsh life getting himself out of shit. Well, I know that it will be hard for pez, because I will flip town. The problem here I see is if he flips town, the rest of town will be head over heels into my lynch. It could be a fukken trap being set out by scum... that is why I am so worried about it... I was actually expecting a kill into the big groups... well, I will not waver...



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Linkzmax on 02 September 2012
pezus said:
Stefl1504 said:

I can easily point to the fact that pez is the only one remaining in my group, I have a hunch that this could be a neat set up for a double mislynch, but at least the general information gathered should be worth the risk taken.

What info would be gathered? Two townies dead, and no idea which group to target next? 

If you're town then it would mean two mafia have to be hiding in a group together.



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Linkzmax on 02 September 2012
pezus said:
Linkzmax said:

Well now I do. Would you like to see last game about how off I can be?

I can admit Noctis was more of a policy lynch than a "he's scum, kill it" and I have no regrets even though he flipped Deputy. You aren't proven town, so that can't be chalked up as anything. I told you I don't have any paranoia of Stefl playing a good scum game.

But now Hatz is dead, so you're only paranoid about prof right now. Am I right?

Why do you not ask him questions?

Indeed.

I like his point on Mario, but I do want to ask him something. But asking questions of prof is not likely to get him to slip up if he's scum.



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Stefl1504 on 02 September 2012
pezus said:
Stefl1504 said:
~quote~

I can easily point to the fact that pez is the only one remaining in my group, I have a hunch that this could be a neat set up for a double mislynch, but at least the general information gathered should be worth the risk taken.

What info would be gathered? Two townies dead, and no idea which group to target next? 


Nope, the information will be there for me as soon as you are dead, which means that there was enough fakeclaim going arround, also if I really die, it will finally prove that nothing good comes from flavour hunt, you being one of my top suspects is also contributive in my eyes. The only thing that makes me hasitate is the fact that scum killed into our small group instead of a big one.



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Linkzmax on 02 September 2012
pezus said:
Linkzmax said:
pezus said:
Stefl1504 said:

I can easily point to the fact that pez is the only one remaining in my group, I have a hunch that this could be a neat set up for a double mislynch, but at least the general information gathered should be worth the risk taken.

What info would be gathered? Two townies dead, and no idea which group to target next? 

If you're town then it would mean two mafia have to be hiding in a group together.

That is true (if we're both town mind you). But the cost is great. 

That's what I said. "You" can also be plural.



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Linkzmax on 02 September 2012
theprof00 said:
Hos mario
That sequence of events is complete garbage.
There was not a remote chance that they lied, there was a remote chance that they wouldnt get called out by moreno showing up. There is not a single piece of evidence reasoning that lying was very slim.
As such, i dont think there areany mafia in the top group because it would be foolish, especially against two players whom have not garnered a lot of suspicion yet.

So meta and general suspicion of pezus and Stefl aside, do you think each is town?



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Stefl1504 on 02 September 2012
pezus said:
Stefl1504 said:

Stefl1504 said:

~cookies.. umm... quote~

I can easily point to the fact that pez is the only one remaining in my group, I have a hunch that this could be a neat set up for a double mislynch, but at least the general information gathered should be worth the risk taken.

 


To further specify, if one of us flips town the other will have a harsh life getting himself out of shit. Well, I know that it will be hard for pez, because I will flip town. The problem here I see is if he flips town, the rest of town will be head over heels into my lynch. It could be a fukken trap being set out by scum... that is why I am so worried about it... I was actually expecting a kill into the big groups... well, I will not waver...

That is exactly what I've been saying. Now read mario's first posts of the day again and tell me what you think about him...


Umm, I do not to reread the post (I believe you meant this one) of mario, because he is scum in my eyes either way (I think I stated that already yesterday), well he is really high on the list... The problem here is that it could be a strategical move by scum itself to make them split to opposite fractions. I deem that mario is pretty much able of doing so if he is on the scum team with you (that is if you are scum). There are still a lot of open possibilities today, and I have the feel that right now my vote feels comfy were it is. Should it get to a point were stuff gets rushed, I surely will unvote you. There is still a lot of stuff to happen, mainly around j0 and mantle, that I am interested in, and that could easily sway my vote away from you.

^ now this feels like a wishy washy post~



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Stefl1504 on 02 September 2012
pezus said:
Stefl1504 said:
pezus said:
Stefl1504 said:
~quote~

I can easily point to the fact that pez is the only one remaining in my group, I have a hunch that this could be a neat set up for a double mislynch, but at least the general information gathered should be worth the risk taken.

What info would be gathered? Two townies dead, and no idea which group to target next? 


Nope, the information will be there for me as soon as you are dead, which means that there was enough fakeclaim going arround, also if I really die, it will finally prove that nothing good comes from flavour hunt, you being one of my top suspects is also contributive in my eyes. The only thing that makes me hasitate is the fact that scum killed into our small group instead of a big one.

You will have the info, yes, but what about the rest of the town? You would very likely be lynched next, unless a cop/watcher/tracker came forward with something interesting of course. Your last line is exactly why I think this is a trap.

So we are pretty much of the same opinion on the situation only on the respective other side? Nice to know... I would like to get the focus off of this situation a bit (because it will be back on us soon enough), because we are now occupying to much of the discussion.



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