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Yoshiya on 29 August 2012
zero129 said:
hatmoza said:
that's an even ration, almost. And it's most likely very accurate since scum would have feared screwing up that ratio by lie claiming early. Perhaps we do have a liar among them, and if there is, it would have been a late claimer So HoS on the last three people who claimed.

Now early scum claimers are most likely to have been telling the truth about their claim. There was no need to lie and it's less suspicious to get your name out as early as possible.

Why would someone who cast their vote late have any more reason to lie then someone who cast it early?

Refer to my previous post where I stated people are likely to fake claim a group with more suspicious people



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Final-Fan on 29 August 2012

 

Who should get the potion? L-7 L-6 L-5 L-4 L-3 L-2 L-1 L-0 - Potion time
Nopony (toDay)

           
Mantlepiecek                
radishhead
             
morenoingrato supermario128 c03n3nj0  
       
Noctis_Nox pezus Linkzmax  spurgeonryan  Yoshiya
     
spurgeonryan Stefl1504              
hatmoza
             

And, clearly there is something about the games I create that makes people want to exploit shit like crazy.  I don't think it reveals anything about how effective the current attempt is to point out that this annoys me. 


If I ever host again I think I'll announce the game composition in advance and have no flavor whatsoever.  Ice cream is too good for you guys. 

P.S.  Sorry for the lateness of these Votals, and credit goes to Noctis for spotting radishhead's vote of him (I had thought he stopped at moreno). 

P.P.S.  Moreno's position can be considered open; if you know anyone who might be interested, let them know they can fill his slot if they're willing to read the thread.  Otherwise he will be modkilled at the 72 hour mark.  After all, he might repent his sins. 



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hatmoza on 29 August 2012
zero129 said:
hatmoza said:
that's an even ration, almost. And it's most likely very accurate since scum would have feared screwing up that ratio by lie claiming early. Perhaps we do have a liar among them, and if there is, it would have been a late claimer So HoS on the last three people who claimed.

Now early scum claimers are most likely to have been telling the truth about their claim. There was no need to lie and it's less suspicious to get your name out as early as possible.

Why would someone who cast their vote late have any more reason to lie then someone who cast it early?.


because right now the general agreement is there is one scum among each group. Scum could lie about a role and claim to be someone they are not.  For example, say hatmoza and F-F are scum. I'm Rarity and he's Pinkie Pie. We can both say we are Rarity so when one of us gets lynch the other one is somewhat confirmed town. Whereas all the Pinkies would be town and we would be dooming them all by believing one of them is scum.

I finally see what Linkz was talking about. However, like I said, the ratios are good. And I'm somewhat comfortable with saying that there is one scum per group.



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Soleron on 29 August 2012

Time order of claims in case it becomes useful

mario - TS
linkz - RD
hatmoza - RY
gap
soleron - TS
radish - PP
gap
yoshiya - RD
pezus - RY
spurge - PP
steph - RY
mantle - PP
noctis - PP (hinted on first day)
prof - TS
c03 - RD
zero - TS
moreno - not yet



Soleron on 29 August 2012

Final I unvoted Noctis earlier



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Soleron on 29 August 2012

Can anyone still on Noctis give their reason, now he's not completely lurking?



radishhead on 29 August 2012

I thought I unvoted Noctis ages ago



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Final-Fan on 29 August 2012

I don't know what you guys are talking about.



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radishhead on 29 August 2012

Well, the element of honesty couldn't lie to us, and the votals seem to make sense now - I guess I just read it wrong earlier ^_^



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Stefl1504 on 29 August 2012
hatmoza said:
that's an even ration, almost. And it's most likely very accurate since scum would have feared screwing up that ratio by lie claiming early. Perhaps we do have a liar among them, and if there is, it would have been a late claimer So HoS on the last three people who claimed.

Now early scum claimers are most likely to have been telling the truth about their claim. There was no need to lie and it's less suspicious to get your name out as early as possible.


hatmoza, what you forgot is, that next to double claiming into the same pony group, scum also could have switch claimed, or have done a combination of both, or a combination of switchclaiming, double claiming and truthfully claiming, looking at the fact that the claims are somehow balanced so far we can't really tell for sure if they did doubleclaim, but switchclaims we cannot see until we get the first scum.



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