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hatmoza said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Hatmoza have a town tell on Soleron and Yoshiya but I beg to differ. If not both one of them is scum.


and I would love to hear your opinion about it because recent events are making me believe that I'm wrong about acouple things.

I know this is lame but Soleron felt like riding of with the flow. He doesn't really scumhunting but more of like he is just getting on someone's push. He's just like adding fuel to the fire. His post adds nothing.

Yoshiya is more of like bandwagon voter. I really don't like people that votes on the middle.



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Noctis, could you give an example of Soleron just adding fuel to the fire rather than sparking some original scumhunting?



zero129 said:
Linkzmax said:
Did you not read http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Rules or do you think there's cheating going on?

I dont know if its cheating or not but yes i believe the mafia are talking to each other with PM's. do you believe they are not?

So you didn't read the link then, yes? Otherwise you would have an idea if it's cheating or not.



Face-to-Face games typically start at Night otherwise the mafia would have no idea who their teammates are. Online games typically start during the day, because as you read, the moderator can inform them by way of PM, so there is no need for compensation.

What makes you think the rules are special for this game?

With all of the "daytalk" talk, I do believe they can. But it's different for me to think it a possibility given I've been in many games and even introduced mafia daytalk to VGC, than for a first-timer like yourself to assume the "abnormal" is going on.



I think you slipped that you and your scummates are talking in secret, because you didn't know it isn't normal for that to be the case.



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Zero129 is playing his noob card far too much. The rules have been linked to him on numerous occasions, he's had 45 pages and several days to get over his excitedness at being in a game and take notes from how others are playing, but he's still playing with a light touch. Making long lists of suspicions, keeping a running commentary on whoever's just made a good point while being apathetic to who's actually likely to be lynched.

Some examples:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748254 
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748217
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748265 


When someone finally gets around to questioning him on his continued lack of awareness about the rules, instead of just saying "Oh I didn't see that, now I know" which is the expected response, he starts attacking whoever questioned him:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748534
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4748526



Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:

 

Who should get the potion? L-7 L-6 L-5 L-4 L-3 L-2 L-1 L-0 - Potion time
No Lynch (Nopony gets the potion today)

           
Mantlepiecek Stefl1504  radishhead            
radishhead
             
morenoingrato supermario128 c03n3nj0  RAD

     
Noctis_Nox pezus Linkz Spurge Sol RAD Yosh    
spurgeonryan Stefl1504              

Stefl isn't a double voter. Are unvotes required? (Yes=mantle,No=spurge)

 

Let's have ourselves a race between moreno and Noctis for becoming model active players, shall we?

Vote: Noctis


Since the mod is not here yet. I am at L-2.



Okay, I lol'd. Every few hours it's a new set of mafia that are linked.



Zero, you're suspicious of people for being suspicious of you? The only effect of that kind of play is to sow confusion.

After all that Hosing and Fosing without voting for anyone except a lurker for policy reasons, you settle on Mantle. I went through the thread and here is everything you have on Mantle

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744659
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744690

i.e. nothing at all.

Your evidence against him is therefore no more than the other two in your post. But your vote is meaningful to you, so why did you vote him and give him more attention than the other two?

Associative cases like you've said here are very weak until someone's alignment has been revealed in future days. It's highly unlikely anyone could catch who "the three" are on day one by themselves even with perfect logic, and much like your reference to earlier stuff about mantle that didn't exist, it's material that appears to be evidence but on closer look isn't. Your post is extremely thin without that.

But I also saw something else while rereading your posts.

You're fishing for radish's power role.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4746079 
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4746082

It was an accidental reveal according to him, and town has no reason to want even more information about it to be leaked.



That was unexpected, right?