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mantlepiecek on 27 August 2012
Linkzmax said:
mantlepiecek said:
hatmoza said:
Linkzmax said:

Well I don't have the warm fuzzies about hat.

I didn't really make my point in http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744418

But it was in response to hat's "It could be that I'm rusty and my reading comprehension is off, but as a town, I did not, at one moment sense that there were more than one of the same characters in the game after my first read through of the OP.

It didn't even cross my mind until supermario mentioned it. "

I was trying to show hat that FF had said there would be multiples of each character, but the other point was valid.

However, after rereading what little has occured so far, there is an issue of the blurb I quoted from FF being quoted by hatmoza here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4743908

And that is hours before mario's post.

In my defense, last night, I was half reading the game. I didn't really start reading through posts or the OP until earlier today. I was not lying when I said I was suffering reading failure, or perhaps better put,lack of motivation to digest the game when it started. Overall, my response was an immediate reaction to how I felt about F-F's need to elaborate and explain specifics of the game at that time.

In that light. I still feel uneasy about supermario because that means he was throwing speculations around based on F-F's post.

 

Also, this is just the start of the game. It really is nothing more of a feeling right now... Your quick defense at supermario's behalf is not as nearly suspicious as Mantle's buddying up to me. So at least something good is coming out of this.

 

Why do you think I was buddying up to you? When I did have my set of questions for mario as well?

What do you think about radish, hat?

Are you trying to say that having a set of questions for mario is supposed to be evidence of not buddying up to hat?

I should be the one saying something like "How is pointing out your fallacious argument(while agreeing on the other points of the post) a quick defense, when I was already questioning mario?"

I think I might have confused myself with that post while replying.

And I kind of changed my tune about hat because of your post, it was a goood observation. Would you disagree?



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radishhead on 27 August 2012
Stefl1504 said:
Now to what really matters: I totally disagree with your reasoning on Yoshiya. I just want you to remember Wiibox in his first round, he got a free pass until he got incidentaly cought doing his evil deeds~ but until then a lot of people gave him a free pass for being in the appearance of a newbie town.

He hasn't said anything that would make me think that he'd be mafia, whether he's a new player or not. The slight aura of uncertainty about him right now is merely an extension on my town-vibe. Obviously none of my analyses are going to remain static, and are just my feelings as the game currently stands. 

 

@Yoshiya: My entire analysis came from the 50 posts before that message; since Mantle didn't post a single message during that time, I wasn't able to refer to his messages when making my point. Hence "COMING SOON" - ie. when I've gone back through earlier pages of the thread to find the argument again, I'll be able to make a proper case with evidence. 

The way that you pointed out that I've posted reasons for "every other player", but merely stated my feelings for alignment on Mantle suggests that you looked through my message purely to see my thoughts on yourself, and mantle (since I've actually put my COMING SOON tags next to 3 players, and haven't analysed any posts of another (due to them being almost non-existant). Why would you do that unless you had a reason to check on Mantle's current standing amongst the other players (ie. you're connected to him in some way)?

FoS Yoshiya



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Yoshiya on 27 August 2012
radishhead said:
Stefl1504 said:
Now to what really matters: I totally disagree with your reasoning on Yoshiya. I just want you to remember Wiibox in his first round, he got a free pass until he got incidentaly cought doing his evil deeds~ but until then a lot of people gave him a free pass for being in the appearance of a newbie town.

He hasn't said anything that would make me think that he'd be mafia, whether he's a new player or not. The slight aura of uncertainty about him right now is merely an extension on my town-vibe. Obviously none of my analyses are going to remain static, and are just my feelings as the game currently stands. 

 

@Yoshiya: My entire analysis came from the 50 posts before that message; since Mantle didn't post a single message during that time, I wasn't able to refer to his messages when making my point. Hence "COMING SOON" - ie. when I've gone back through earlier pages of the thread to find the argument again, I'll be able to make a proper case with evidence. 

The way that you pointed out that I've posted reasons for "every other player", but merely stated my feelings for alignment on Mantle suggests that you looked through my message purely to see my thoughts on yourself, and mantle (since I've actually put my COMING SOON tags next to 3 players, and haven't analysed any posts of another (due to them being almost non-existant). Why would you do that unless you had a reason to check on Mantle's current standing amongst the other players (ie. you're connected to him in some way)?

FoS Yoshiya

Ok every other player was an exaggeration but it was effectively the case seeing as there is only 3 players you don't have. The reason I picked up on Mantle was because I would have thought after the two of you went head-to-head like that you would have formed a proper opinion on him.

As to basing this on the first 50 posts, why? The topic is now well past just 50 posts and more important things are likely to have come up later?



radishhead on 27 August 2012
Yoshiya said:
radishhead said:
Stefl1504 said:
Now to what really matters: I totally disagree with your reasoning on Yoshiya. I just want you to remember Wiibox in his first round, he got a free pass until he got incidentaly cought doing his evil deeds~ but until then a lot of people gave him a free pass for being in the appearance of a newbie town.

He hasn't said anything that would make me think that he'd be mafia, whether he's a new player or not. The slight aura of uncertainty about him right now is merely an extension on my town-vibe. Obviously none of my analyses are going to remain static, and are just my feelings as the game currently stands. 

 

@Yoshiya: My entire analysis came from the 50 posts before that message; since Mantle didn't post a single message during that time, I wasn't able to refer to his messages when making my point. Hence "COMING SOON" - ie. when I've gone back through earlier pages of the thread to find the argument again, I'll be able to make a proper case with evidence. 

The way that you pointed out that I've posted reasons for "every other player", but merely stated my feelings for alignment on Mantle suggests that you looked through my message purely to see my thoughts on yourself, and mantle (since I've actually put my COMING SOON tags next to 3 players, and haven't analysed any posts of another (due to them being almost non-existant). Why would you do that unless you had a reason to check on Mantle's current standing amongst the other players (ie. you're connected to him in some way)?

FoS Yoshiya

Ok every other player was an exaggeration but it was effectively the case seeing as there is only 3 players you don't have. The reason I picked up on Mantle was because I would have thought after the two of you went head-to-head like that you would have formed a proper opinion on him.

As to basing this on the first 50 posts, why? The topic is now well past just 50 posts and more important things are likely to have come up later?

"50 posts before that message"!



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Yoshiya on 27 August 2012

Also, your comments on me and Zero specifically quote from posts that came well after the 50 mark. You seem to have just chosen what suits you in order to defend yourself.

FoS Radish



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mantlepiecek on 27 August 2012
radishhead said:
Stefl1504 said:
Now to what really matters: I totally disagree with your reasoning on Yoshiya. I just want you to remember Wiibox in his first round, he got a free pass until he got incidentaly cought doing his evil deeds~ but until then a lot of people gave him a free pass for being in the appearance of a newbie town.

He hasn't said anything that would make me think that he'd be mafia, whether he's a new player or not. The slight aura of uncertainty about him right now is merely an extension on my town-vibe. Obviously none of my analyses are going to remain static, and are just my feelings as the game currently stands. 

 

@Yoshiya: My entire analysis came from the 50 posts before that message; since Mantle didn't post a single message during that time, I wasn't able to refer to his messages when making my point. Hence "COMING SOON" - ie. when I've gone back through earlier pages of the thread to find the argument again, I'll be able to make a proper case with evidence. 

The way that you pointed out that I've posted reasons for "every other player", but merely stated my feelings for alignment on Mantle suggests that you looked through my message purely to see my thoughts on yourself, and mantle (since I've actually put my COMING SOON tags next to 3 players, and haven't analysed any posts of another (due to them being almost non-existant). Why would you do that unless you had a reason to check on Mantle's current standing amongst the other players (ie. you're connected to him in some way)?

FoS Yoshiya

That would be the case if he went around talking to everyone mentioning me. He just did it to your post I believe.



Yoshiya on 27 August 2012

EBWOP

Sorry, misread the thing >



Yoshiya on 27 August 2012

EBWODP

Ok, that face seems to screw up all the text after it, so I'll write what came after it here;

Still, seems a bit weird to have just chosen them? Even if you didn't go in specifics I am sure you could have just given your opinion on those three players.



radishhead on 27 August 2012
Yoshiya said:
EBWODP

Ok, that face seems to screw up all the text after it, so I'll write what came after it here;

Still, seems a bit weird to have just chosen them? Even if you didn't go in specifics I am sure you could have just given your opinion on those three players.

It's just one whole page of posts + the ones on the same page that I was posting on (so I guess that'd be around 65 posts) - I felt that was a good enough timeframe to keep my analysis relevant and up-to-date. Besides, it's not like I'm just going to not post analyses on the other players



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mantlepiecek on 27 August 2012
radishhead said:

Because Dr Evil is the bad guy? 

You can't tell me that this discussion we're having right now doesn't make you look at least a little suspicious - you're took the joke that I made and ran with it, hoping that you'd grab an early mislynch.

Because I believe that right now, the Mafia would gain more from finding out the characters - what I said to Noctis (as I already said in the post you quoted) was a checking-in post joke to annoy him a bit. 


At bolded.

If you actually felt this way about me, why haven't you voted for me, but are voting no lynch? Just because it is usual to vote no lynch day 1 for you, why are you voting no lynch when you seemed to think I was trying to grab an early mislynch?