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Soleron on 26 August 2012
spurgeonryan said:
Hi ya'll it is the weekend and I am just not on much. But I have read most of the last few pages on my phone.

I will seay even thought it will make soleron mad that Nocits lurked last game as well. Seems to be his thing to do as Scum. Lurkers were scum last game. Big time! If Morenoingrato does not like a role or what is going on he will lurk as well from what I remembver. It is not a tell, it is just something he does because I think he has not much to say.
Although I think last game NoCtis did not have a reason for lurking, while the games before he did have a reason.


@Pezzus

Remember that NoCtis stopped lurking when it suited him lat game. He seems to lurk, but I tthink he is just waiting for the right time to post.

No that's good, I'm not up on people's metas and that's helpful. If moreno and noctis are deliberately lurking I would support a lynch on them (in the absence of better candidates and not personally being a fan of D1 No Lynch) because their actions are not helping town.

I got pezus to admit he needs to post better so:

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Linkzmax on 26 August 2012
pezus said:
Linkzmax said:
pezus said:
Oooh, look whose reading comrehension is off

Context?

This was directly after your post regarding Hatz, where hatz said: "It could be that I'm rusty and my reading comprehension is off..."

So, I was in fact talking about hatmoza

I thought as much, but it was rather quick after my post. So I wasn't sure that you had read and comprehended it all or were speaking about someone else.



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Linkzmax on 26 August 2012
mantlepiecek said:
hatmoza said:
Linkzmax said:

Well I don't have the warm fuzzies about hat.

I didn't really make my point in http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4744418

But it was in response to hat's "It could be that I'm rusty and my reading comprehension is off, but as a town, I did not, at one moment sense that there were more than one of the same characters in the game after my first read through of the OP.

It didn't even cross my mind until supermario mentioned it. "

I was trying to show hat that FF had said there would be multiples of each character, but the other point was valid.

However, after rereading what little has occured so far, there is an issue of the blurb I quoted from FF being quoted by hatmoza here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4743908

And that is hours before mario's post.

In my defense, last night, I was half reading the game. I didn't really start reading through posts or the OP until earlier today. I was not lying when I said I was suffering reading failure, or perhaps better put,lack of motivation to digest the game when it started. Overall, my response was an immediate reaction to how I felt about F-F's need to elaborate and explain specifics of the game at that time.

In that light. I still feel uneasy about supermario because that means he was throwing speculations around based on F-F's post.

 

Also, this is just the start of the game. It really is nothing more of a feeling right now... Your quick defense at supermario's behalf is not as nearly suspicious as Mantle's buddying up to me. So at least something good is coming out of this.

 

Why do you think I was buddying up to you? When I did have my set of questions for mario as well?

What do you think about radish, hat?

Are you trying to say that having a set of questions for mario is supposed to be evidence of not buddying up to hat?

I should be the one saying something like "How is pointing out your fallacious argument(while agreeing on the other points of the post) a quick defense, when I was already questioning mario?"



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Stefl1504 on 26 August 2012
pezus said:
Stefl1504 said:

pezus said:

~quotes~

Obviously not, I am never scum. You are always scum though

Well, that might be true (I have a pretty high scum/town ratio) but I think we shouldn't let ourself be influenced by past games, unless we really deem it necesary. I actually wanted to see how mantle reacts, because I was curious~ but seeing that you find it more important to get in my way why we don't start a little chit-chat, since you are never scum, how high are the possibilies of you being 3rd Party again?


Pretty much zero . How is that for an answer?

Pretty much zero != zero, well, if it happens that you are third party plaese be tame and help town, okay?



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Moren on 26 August 2012

I was lurking all that time, it's not as if I had a profile that says "last online" that proved otherwise.

Anyway, I was on a trip today and I'm pretty tired, I'll catch up tomorrow morning. From what I've read so far, I don't like Radish.

Also, Mario, will you truly condemn me on those two posts? Really?



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Linkzmax on 26 August 2012
supermario128 said:
Linkzmax said:

Okay, I'll bite. What things are there to make sense of? We've had no deaths to make you wonder if there's a serial killer.

Assuming you're town, how would you play differently day one if there are 4 mafia, 5 mafia, or 4 mafia plus an independent?

I wouldn't play any differently. FF gave us a lot of information about the games set up, so I was simply trying to make sense of it all by putting it all together. I could have either ignored everything he said or made use of it. I try to do this every game if I can, the only difference is we know a lot more this time. I'm 99% sure we have 4 mafia and 1 third party. No, that doesn't change anything about how I will play, but it might help later on.

I might have to check if you setup meta day one in previous rounds, but as you say yourself it makes no difference today what the setup is. And the number of kills tonight will surely be a better indicator of the existence or absense of a third party.



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Stefl1504 on 26 August 2012
Yoshiya said:
theprof00 said:
Radish i feel is a lynchable target for that "slip".
Mantle though, is lynchable for considering radish lynchable. I think most would agree that mantle seems more suspicious. That is because his move against radish appears opportunistic compared to radish's slip. I would argue that a vote for mantle appears more opportunistic, though, than a vote for radish.

Mantle appears more suspicious at the moment in my eyes but I do have some suspicion towards Radish as well. The only reason I feel like this is because Mantle seemed to be pushing towards a Radish lynch slightly harder than I suspected for the "slip" he did. Also, it seemed kind of weird for him to base his FoS towards Radish on the fact that hat was being ignorant of his posts unless he knows something.

I have to say that I would be more inclined to lynch radish over mantle, I haven't read further than this yet, but I would actually like to hear from linkz about his radishradar read.



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Stefl1504 on 26 August 2012
supermario128 said:
mantlepiecek said:

1)Are you 3rd party mario? There is literelly no other reason for you to believe there to be a 3rd party player in this game.

2)Actually that wasn't the reason for me to believe he is town. Him calling you suspicious wasn't as "townious" as his approach was.

Still, he is nowhere in clear anymore.

What do you feel about linkz?


No, I am not 3rd party. I am town. Maybe I should have been more specific, but I'm 99% sure we have 4 mafia and pretty sure we have 1 third party. I'm not as confident about the third party part, but it would make sense.That being said, talking about this won't help us FIND the mafia, so let us just leave it at that and move on to other things.

I think Linkz is town.

Vote: Moreno

His posts so far reek of scum behavior.

First he says this to make his presence known, but not do anything to bring attention to himself. Mafia typically like to start with posts like these. Similar to SAK last round...

Next he says this. He is mostly joking around here to not draw attention.

That is all so far, but I am most suspicious of him at the moment. Both posts were made very early in the game, so he mind change my mind if he posted a bit more. However, I think he is our best option at the moment.

@ bolded - I can see on how you get the idea of 4 mafia...

looking at what appears to be morenos next post:

morenoingrato said:

I was lurking all that time, it's not as if I had a profile that says "last online" that proved otherwise.

Anyway, I was on a trip today and I'm pretty tired, I'll catch up tomorrow morning. From what I've read so far, I don't like Radish.

Also, Mario, will you truly condemn me on those two posts? Really?

I think you might be right with moreno...

So moreno, why do you like to lynch radish? Also, how about posting a bit of more content to get mario of your back instead of trying to discredit his points (which are valid in my eyes, because your posts were worthless)



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theprof00 on 26 August 2012
c03n3nj0 said:
theprof00 said:
Radish i feel is a lynchable target for that "slip".
Mantle though, is lynchable for considering radish lynchable. I think most would agree that mantle seems more suspicious. That is because his move against radish appears opportunistic compared to radish's slip. I would argue that a vote for mantle appears more opportunistic, though, than a vote for radish.

Could you explain what this "slip" is? 

lol I didn't mean to use that word specifically, mistake would be a better word. It's just that him character digging is one of the things that people tend to focus on on day 1.

Oh well, I might as well just say it too. I do feel there is a legitimate slip in there as well, and that is one of being interested in the character details of a 'doctor'. I wasn't going to say it earlier because I felt it was flimsy. It is still flimsy, but I also didn't expect to be asked what I meant.



Stefl1504 on 26 August 2012
pezus said:

To add to my post:

Moreno for lurking. Hopefully he comes back and posts more.

Radish for his weird interaction with both mantle and yoshi

mantel: see above

Oh and I forgot stefl, but he always seems to lurk. Noctis as well. 

Here's a question for zero: Why do you seem so pro already, like you recognize all the lingo and such? Have you played before?

I am actually thinking you are trying to push for the easier lynches with this post than you are trying to scumhunt, I do not agree that all of your posts seem scum hiding behind activity, but your list of suspects you have here is rather weak, I know I have nothing better to offer (other than my standard feeling of prof) but this list seems a bit eagerly widespread (specially like j0 mentioned: pushing for both sides of a conflict). Now I don't want from you that you dismiss your thoughts on the people you listed, I just want to know who you would vote for of these (apperantly at this point it was zero) persons.



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