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Linkzmax on 11 September 2012
supermario128 said:
Linkzmax said:

Please explain to me how it would be very risky for zero, who was last to claim, to have not told the truth.

We have gone over this a long time ago Linkz. Why are we bringing it up again? I already stated very early on that the only ones who could have lied were probably the last two or three people who claimed, but even then I'm not so sure they did. They did have the benefit of Moreno never claiming after all. You can believe they lied of you want, but I'm going to assume they didn't. Better to not complicate things unless we have a reason for doing so. As in, we shouldn't assume they lied until we have evidence that says they did.

Let's say we lynch spurge and he's scum, woohoo! Tomorrow radish reports an innocent scan on someone in your group, but someone else is lynched and flips scum too. But oh noes! a godfather hasn't flipped yet. Then, because you assume scum intentionally put themselves in a situation that gives town the upperhand, you lynch Stefl and pezus in whichever order and they both happen to be town. Who could blame you right, there was never evidence mafia lied.

And that's why making assumptions just to simplify things is bad. It's one thing to make an assumption if you have evidence supporting it, but that's not the case either. Now you shouldn't assume that they lied either, but it should be kept in mind that it's possible.



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Linkzmax on 11 September 2012
Linkzmax said:
Or we can lynch prof, with much of the rest being the same. Or zero for that matter.

Not sure why, but Mario fits just as much as these other two.

Now especially I have the feeling that he's selling out whatever teammates are necessary just to push things to a decision between 2 townies(pezus and Stefl) at the end.



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Linkzmax on 11 September 2012

EBWOP: Not sure why I didn't mention him in the post originally*
Jeez I'm out of it



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Linkzmax on 11 September 2012
theprof00 said:

You're reads based on past play is not worth putting stock into unfortunately.

This is true. Just last round prof was very quiet at first, and he was town.

Granted it's Day 3 now, but I haven't butted heads with you either.

 

There is good reason to think you're scum though, as I mentioned sometime Day 2 I believe. Still, spurge is the safest lynch today. I have faith town will hang you if it comes down to it, even if I'm not around to vote you.



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radishhead on 11 September 2012

Vote: Spurge

Just throwing that out there. Probably the best choice out of the current possibilities - I'm not that keen on the idea of lynching Prof today



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Linkzmax on 11 September 2012

ARRRRRGH!!! Why didn't you wait until hammer? :P



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theprof00 on 11 September 2012
Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:

You're reads based on past play is not worth putting stock into unfortunately.

This is true. Just last round prof was very quiet at first, and he was town.

Granted it's Day 3 now, but I haven't butted heads with you either.

 

There is good reason to think you're scum though, as I mentioned sometime Day 2 I believe. Still, spurge is the safest lynch today. I have faith town will hang you if it comes down to it, even if I'm not around to vote you.

Well I think mainly we haven't butted heads because I haven't played much.

However, I do have a further theory that I briefly mentioned earlier, and that is mafia were informed of the thread and town was not, which was very succinctly noted by you yourself on page 1.



mantlepiecek on 11 September 2012
pezus said:
mantlepiecek said:
Linkzmax said:

Spurge it is. If he flips town, you're either insane or mantle is a godfather. If he flips mafia, hooray!

Vote: spurgeonryan

I am pretty sure spurge will flip scum, but in the case that he does flip town, it is possible that radish is lying as well.

Of course no one has counter claimed so he probably isn't.

It's between prof and spurge for me. And something tells me spurge is the better option. Lynching someone just because they have never been lynched maybe a good way to create a "historic" situation but that isn't what we are supposed to do. We keep him and stefl for the last.

Vote : spurgeonryan

But why would you want to keep prof to the end?

Well if he is town it would be an immense help that is why. However from his play I am not getting a single town feel from him.



mantlepiecek on 11 September 2012
spurgeonryan said:
Yes, I saw all of that. Yesterday you guys would have thought that pezus or stefl would have been the safe lynch. But we were wrong about that. I am beginning to think that people do not care, they just want to test their theory on me.

Yes I would lynch prof over me. He has been lurking like a son of a bitch, he has added nothing of substance to the thread from what I have seen, and we know that if prof and linkz are alive after night one or two then it usually means just one thing. His posts are like poison and tomorrow when the dust settles there will be two town dead and he will still be around poisoning your minds. Linkz and Mario are the only vets who know how to sort of handle him. Linkz is the only one who will be here in force.

But make the wrong choice and lynch me. We had yet another game given to us, but because of over confident veterans we will lose for like the hundredth time in a row.

Am I wrong?

Don't worry spurge. Prof doesn't threaten me, and I am sure he doesn't threaten someone like stefl too.

Anyways. Something happened now that makes me feel that if Spurge is scum then Linkz and mario are town. Like 100% town.



mantlepiecek on 11 September 2012
supermario128 said:
mantlepiecek said:

Well, put forth a case against him then. I am ok with his lynch too but the safest lynch would be spurge.

Both are fairly safe imo. The case against him is that he has played the same way as the last time he was mafia. Also, I am not mafia and I doubt Zero is, so that leaves Prof (who everyone thinks is mafia). Spurge may be a bit "safer", but leaving Prof alive is risky. I guess we will see what everyone else has to say first. I'm fine with either btw, so if the majority think Spurge should be first I will change my vote accordingly.

The case isn't as strong as spurge then. Because spurge's play this game has been scummy, like I noted back in day 2.