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Some poor logic being thrown around.
Just because studios worked on Vita games before closing doesn't mean that the Vita games caused them to be closed. It means that there's a correlation.
Perhaps the studios were already up for closing and were just given time to finish their vita project so as to at least get a game out of them?



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If I read that correctly, none of the staff are actually being unemployed, only being reassigned to other studios. Even though the future of games like Wipeout is unclear, it isn't inconceivable for other studios to make these games. After all, Sony owns the rights to all of them.



kowenicki said:
leatherhat said:
kowenicki said:
leatherhat said:
kowenicki said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Wipeoout HD is one of my favourite games this gen, very sad to see them go and hope the talent gets relocated soon


Seems thay are keeping about 66% of the workforce, hopefully they will be relocated into other UK based studios.  I'm presuming the jobs lost will be mainly administrative.


I think they are doing this to specifically to get them out of the UK and into mainland Europe/US studios. 

In which case many have lost their jobs... they wont go.   I dont think there is any evidence for that.

I think there is. Activision has gutted its UK development. Sony is closing down UK studios, and this whole gen they focused less and less on UK development and more on mainland studios. The reason would be the removal of tax breaks for gave devs in the UK- if this turns out to be the reason why. 


Odd timing seeing as those tax breaks are coming in the UK for the FIRST time.  There havent been any tax breaks in existance for Gaming for the last 20 years and yet now they are about to start they close UK studios?     Sorry but that makes zero sense.

Sony is closing down its UK studios?

Studios:

UK: 5 (now 4)

Japan: 2

US:  7 (now 6)

Rest of world: 1 (Netherlands)

 

I've seen others blaming this on the UK for no tax breaks for gaming. Its a red herring. It is because Sony is down sizing, pure and simple.  They said they had too many studois and they are shrinking them. 

 

 

 

Its not much of a down size if they are keeping on the majority of the staff



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leatherhat said:

Its not much of a down size if they are keeping on the majority of the staff

Moving employees to new studios means less project leaders, less directors, less overhead. They don't need to pay for building rental, and with studios that have ineffective employees, they can get rid of bad employees and replace them with these. I'd say it is overall downsizing a whole studio minus 10-20% or so.



theprof00 said:
Some poor logic being thrown around.
Just because studios worked on Vita games before closing doesn't mean that the Vita games caused them to be closed. It means that there's a correlation.
Perhaps the studios were already up for closing and were just given time to finish their vita project so as to at least get a game out of them?


If that's at me, it was just a joke. Not logic.

It's just strange to find out that all the their last games were for Vita. Of course not factual, but it is some kind of curse in a sensationalist way



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theprof00 said:
leatherhat said:

Its not much of a down size if they are keeping on the majority of the staff

Moving employees to new studios means less project leaders, less directors, less overhead. They don't need to pay for building rental, and with studios that have ineffective employees, they can get rid of bad employees and replace them with these. I'd say it is overall downsizing a whole studio minus 10-20% or so.


I think they are keeping everything about studio liverpool except the dev part. So all the buildings and stuff will still be there and used. 



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VicViper said:
theprof00 said:
Some poor logic being thrown around.
Just because studios worked on Vita games before closing doesn't mean that the Vita games caused them to be closed. It means that there's a correlation.
Perhaps the studios were already up for closing and were just given time to finish their vita project so as to at least get a game out of them?


If that's at me, it was just a joke. Not logic.

It's just strange to find out that all the their last games were for Vita. Of course not factual, but it is some kind of curse in a sensationalist way

So, it was just a joke, but yet you try to rationalize it being serious with the very next sentence?

You're simply wrong, and yes, sensationalist.



kowenicki said:
leatherhat said:
theprof00 said:
leatherhat said:

Its not much of a down size if they are keeping on the majority of the staff

Moving employees to new studios means less project leaders, less directors, less overhead. They don't need to pay for building rental, and with studios that have ineffective employees, they can get rid of bad employees and replace them with these. I'd say it is overall downsizing a whole studio minus 10-20% or so.


I think they are keeping everything about studio liverpool except the dev part. So all the buildings and stuff will still be there and used. 


correct.

another reason this makes little sense.

team ico must be hiding in the toilets and ignoring the phone right now.

Team ICO is protected against this because of the strange love people have towards it. 



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theprof00 said:

So, it was just a joke, but yet you try to rationalize it being serious with the very next sentence?

You're simply wrong, and yes, sensationalist.

Sorry having touched a nerve there. Never tried to rationalize anything. It's just what it is and I found strange and very coincidental. The curse part was the joke, but apparently didn't ressonate well with you.



Fuck. My. Life.

This is genuinely some of the most upsetting news I could have read logging onto here.

Psygnosis were such an important dev to me. They defined the PS1. They never made a bad WipEout game. Colony Wars & G-Police were magnificent. They helped many devs out who today have become amazing (Rockstar North, Ubisoft Reflections etc.)

I would list them as one of my top 3 favourite dev teams of all time.  Up there with Bullfrog and Insomniac.  Really talented people at the top of their game.

They were incredible.

The offices are only about 15 minutes away from where I live. I literally said to some friends of mine about a fortnight ago "Do you reckon they'll do a tour of their studio for me?"

This has genuinely upset me. What the fuck.

:((((