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Forums - Politics - Paul Ryan's tax plan would slash Romney's tax rate to less than 1%?

The Atlantic is reports that Romney's tax rate would be slashed to less than 1%:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/mitt-romney-would-pay-082-percent-in-taxes-under-paul-ryans-plan/261027/

Under Paul Ryan's plan, Mitt Romney wouldn't pay any taxes for the next ten years -- or any of the years after that. Now, do I know that that's true. Yes, I'm certain.

Well, maybe not quite nothing. In 2010 -- the only year we have seen a full return from him -- Romney would have paid an effective tax rate of around 0.82 percent under the Ryan plan, rather than the 13.9 percent he actually did. How would someone with more than $21 million in taxable income pay so little? Well, the vast majority of Romney's income came from capital gains, interest, and dividends. And Ryan wants to eliminate all taxes on capital gains, interest and dividends. 
Anyone want to be able to point out where the article would be mistaken regarding this, or think this is appropriate if it is correct?

 



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I have to say that I find it strange that there is such a huge difference in the tax rates for salaried and investment taxes. Here in NZ, governments have been looking at taxing people who make more money (say over $250K). In America, this seems to be the other way round. Guess that's due to the lobbying power of the rich.

Heh! Kind of went on a tangent there.



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I'd question the point of the article, since like it says. Romney is against that tax strucutre... and nobody talks about Biden policy issues.


As for how you'd justify it? Depends on which half you mean.

It doesn't make sense to tax dividends, because dividends are already taxed as corporate profits, and since shareholders own the companies... essentially you are double taxing the owners of the company.


As for long term capital gains. (I'm guessing it's long term.) I'd guess the point would be to spur investment. I wouldn't do it, but there are some convincing economic arguements.

However what they SHOULD do is put a CPI modifier on capital gains though.



Obviously, I do not agree with any taxation, of any kind, at any level. But most economists will agree that capital gains tax is one of the worst taxes.

Rather than list all the reasons why, here's somebody else doing it for me:

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/54435/opinion-why-capital-gains-tax-very-very-bad-idea



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SamuelRSmith said:
Obviously, I do not agree with any taxation, of any kind, at any level. But most economists will agree that capital gains tax is one of the worst taxes.

Rather than list all the reasons why, here's somebody else doing it for me:

http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/54435/opinion-why-capital-gains-tax-very-very-bad-idea

Capital gains is the profit one makes from selling a capital asset:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_gain

 

One can argue with the problems of double taxation.  But, to end up saying there should be no tax on it, at any point, would end up causing the upper class to be able to totally exempt itself from the tax system.  They then become parasites who end up having much influence on things, get benefits of a society, and contribute nothing.  Also, you end up skewing economic activity towards the selling of capital assets.  By the way, it isn't just capital gains that doesn't get taxed by Ryan's plan but also income derived from owning assets, such as paid dividends.  And you abolish the inheritance tax to.  You end up creating a class of individuals who own most of the assets but pay no taxes.  Maybe you think that is a good idea though.