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Forums - Politics Discussion - USA Election Question... Are we better off than we were 4 years ago?

 

Is America in a better place than it was 4 years ago?

Yes 26 44.83%
 
No 20 34.48%
 
Same 12 20.69%
 
Total:58
Kasz216 on 30 July 2012

Honestly, I think whether or not we're better off then we were 4 years ago really isn't answerable now because so much rides on the economy.


Even with DADT repealed, it feels like we're way farther behind Civil Rights wise. Which is bothersome... since that was the one area I thought was a slam dunk Obama would IMPROVE over Bush.



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cloud1161 on 30 July 2012
spurgeonryan said:
cloud1161 said:
spurgeonryan said:
Wars are about to end and have ended, stock is doing alright, unemployment is not too bad, there is a start on americas health standards, oil spill was handled well but katrina is still bein worked on. Debt is going down a bit this year, gas prices not too bad, etc.

It has not been great, but we are finally digging out of the hole bush and partly obama had put us in.

I just checked the Debt Clock http://www.usdebtclock.org/  This time last year I remember very vividly (because I first saw it during an internship last summer) that the overall debt was 14 trillion.  Now it's nearly 60 trillion.  And unemployment is still hovering around 8% http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000 as it has for nearly all of Obama's presidency vs. Bush's 5%.  I am not a Bush supporter by any means, but people often over-exaggerate his faults as is the same for most presidents I suppose.  


Hmm...maybe it was just this years debt compared to last year? Either way I got it from a very reliable source. Yahoo news.

Haha yea maybe that's what it meant.  Although, I have found some inaccuracies with Yahoo news so who knows for sure.



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Kasz216 on 31 July 2012
spurgeonryan said:
cloud1161 said:
spurgeonryan said:
Wars are about to end and have ended, stock is doing alright, unemployment is not too bad, there is a start on americas health standards, oil spill was handled well but katrina is still bein worked on. Debt is going down a bit this year, gas prices not too bad, etc.

It has not been great, but we are finally digging out of the hole bush and partly obama had put us in.

I just checked the Debt Clock http://www.usdebtclock.org/  This time last year I remember very vividly (because I first saw it during an internship last summer) that the overall debt was 14 trillion.  Now it's nearly 60 trillion.  And unemployment is still hovering around 8% http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000 as it has for nearly all of Obama's presidency vs. Bush's 5%.  I am not a Bush supporter by any means, but people often over-exaggerate his faults as is the same for most presidents I suppose.  


Hmm...maybe it was just this years debt compared to last year? Either way I got it from a very reliable source. Yahoo news.

Yeah, by debt going down they mean....


If I borrow 20 bucks last week, while I borrowed 30 the week before... my "debt" is going down.

We're still running up HUGE debt.



Marks on 31 July 2012

More debt, lower credit rating, Obamacare, no new jobs....I'd say America is worse.