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theprof00 said:
Sounds like a lame excuse to tunnel me.

I asked you what you had against me.

 

Tell me what you think about baal/wonk.

Actually, tell me who all your suspects are please, and your reasoning for them, please.

Read my post after the day started its all there.

I'm not repeating my self specially since we both know you wont listen or have a civil descusion with me.

That being said the only one i'll consider lynching besides you today is Noc.

 

Wonk claimed soon after replacing baalz and his role is  weird just like baalz claimed.

Thats why i said it was bad modding from J0 and thats how i see it.

His more town to me that either You, Noc,  mantel or stefl (in this order i think)



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theprof00 said:

1. Explain to me how that variant could be mafia or town, as opposed to a different variant. I would like this theory fleshed out. I have a hard time thinking of different post restricted variants other than "must vote for X" or "cannot talk to Y" and at that point either of them could have been true. Furthermore, he doesn't even say "pills" in every post, which should be an immediate note that saying it is not his restriction.

You see when Noc didn't say pills in one of his post, he immediately wrote another one saying that he forgot to take his pills. To me this was an indication at a post restriction. Maybe he didn't write that word before or after that, but from my observation he has definitely said PILLS in every post during day 1.



spurgeonryan said:
Nevermind just saw prof question cojo.


@ mantle

Now you are tunneling me. I think I have been mentioned in 3 of your last 4 posts.. hmmmm... ummmm.. possibly because there have already been a lot of town deaths and we are coming up on night 4. Could be a reason my dear mantle. Could be.....


lolno.

Why do you call everyone "dear X" ? Is that a post restriction?



nen-suer said:
theprof00 said:
Sounds like a lame excuse to tunnel me.

I asked you what you had against me.

 

Tell me what you think about baal/wonk.

Actually, tell me who all your suspects are please, and your reasoning for them, please.

Read my post after the day started its all there.

I'm not repeating my self specially since we both know you wont listen or have a civil descusion with me.

That being said the only one i'll consider lynching besides you today is Noc.

 

Wonk claimed soon after replacing baalz and his role is  weird just like baalz claimed.

Thats why i said it was bad modding from J0 and thats how i see it.

His more town to me that either You, Noc,  mantel or stefl (in this order i think)

So, you're opinion hasn't changed since the start of the day on anyone. Good to know.

First comments were that FF's flip makes my role more believable. However, then you say noc's claim is a lot weaker than mine.

Then you tried to make it seem like I was contradictory pointing out that I said you defended him, and then quoting me telling spurge to stop pressuring a player who is threatening to leave the game. A poor comparison, nen. I simply was talking to spurge and telling him we could lynch him on a day when he's feeling better.

Then you quote me saying to "pick up the pace", saying that I was pushing to lynch ff, leaving out that I distinctly said we should wait for a defense. What is your motivation in posting something like that? To me, it appears you're trying to throw suspicion on me for what I said, when in fact I said nothing wrong, especially considering that nothing I said was actually followed.

Then you question why I'm questioning your alignment despite thinking previously that linkz scanned you. Why would you ask me why a scanned town player could still be scum? SEriously, what a dumb question.

Anyway, you continue on noc, saying his role is the most fishy of the vote restricted, and calling out the case that he never challenged my role. So basically meta-gaming reasons, especially when we've claimed and you haven't.

You then agree with me that when logic leads nowhere, previously scanned people must be reevaluated.

You then try to imply that I've been changing my story by saying "Now i'm linkzed with Mario ? What happens to Noc?!", to which I pointed out that in several posts on day 1 and 2- you linkz and mario were my top three, and I said that you all seemed connected. Do I need to write again all the coincidences you two share? I'm not saying they're scummy, but you cannot deny they exist, nen.

You called noc's role "a variant", yet you're unable to distinguish it from whatever the logical norm would be when I ask you to clarify.

You're then asked by spurge why you don't vote me. You say if it wasn't for my role and ff's flip, you would. Saying, "that's just how scummy and devastating his play has been" (NOTE: I asked you just a moment ago IRL what your evidence is against me. It's posts like this that completely lack any justification other than empty words that make me question your evidence and reasoning. Especially since you told me to go check back, and so far, I still haven't seen what you're talking about even though I'm posting every single post since the day start.

Oh wait, there's some.
Not liking my read of mantle.
"Believing noc's claim over mario who claimed day 1"

THere's another one:
"Prof is still alive"
Then you imply I'm changing my read on you, by saying that I called SK-nen easier to play town, yet you omit the fact that that game was only 3 games ago, and you could have easily retained that "feeling" of play, more easy to replicate that approach since it was so recent. Also, you omit that perhaps you just simply got better. You only insult yourself with that post, nen. Not me.

Then you grab a PROTECTIVE role from epicmafia, which doesn't have any of the normal roles we know in regular mafia. Say that I was lying and I'm a third party. ILLOGICALLY to your point, the goal of the monk is to make the game last as long as possible, yet you claim I'm trying to lynch town, UNTIL I point that out, and then you say "if there's only 2 mafia left and we get one, the game could be over tonight". No, nen, you were reaching, then corrected, then reaching again.

You THEN continue to say that this PROTECTIVE role should be lynched AND EVEN VOTE FOR ME. Does nobody have eyes here?

I'm not a monk, but jesus christ nen. You are scummier than Hatmoza in the game of thrones game.

 

Yeah I'm done looking for this "evidence and reasoning" you said I will find. THere's nothing here but garbage.

 



mantlepiecek said:
theprof00 said:

1. Explain to me how that variant could be mafia or town, as opposed to a different variant. I would like this theory fleshed out. I have a hard time thinking of different post restricted variants other than "must vote for X" or "cannot talk to Y" and at that point either of them could have been true. Furthermore, he doesn't even say "pills" in every post, which should be an immediate note that saying it is not his restriction.

You see when Noc didn't say pills in one of his post, he immediately wrote another one saying that he forgot to take his pills. To me this was an indication at a post restriction. Maybe he didn't write that word before or after that, but from my observation he has definitely said PILLS in every post during day 1.

The question was to nen. Next time quote the whole box, because it was important to the context.

Nen specifically said that this variant was either town or mafia as opposed to a town type. I asked him to clarify, which he was unable to, simply writing what the variant is and what other ones are, in his opinion, rather than what differentiates it as being one that can specifically be town and mafia.



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Macho is a role modifier that prevents players from being protected from kills in any way.

The modifier was first developed as a way to neutralise follow the cop strategies that exist in Cop/Doc set-ups, preventing the Cop from gaining the Doctor's protection. Macho Cop is still the most common role associated with this modifier, but other roles have used it for balance and design reasons.

This role modifier is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

real role prof with only a slight difference.


Inventor
Inventor
Alias: none
Alignment: any
Role type:

Support
Multipurpose

Choice:

Night

The Inventor is a role that can give out various gadgets to other players. Each gadget typically provides one shot of a Power Role, such as a one-shot kill, a one-shot investigation, a one-shot bulletproof, etc. These gadgets are chosen from a list included in the Inventor's Role PM.

Inventors cannot simply use their own gadgets themselves, and usually cannot give Inventions to themselves; they generally must give them to another player to use. An Inventor who is able to use their own gadgets is almost always better off simply using them themselves.

Inventors, including the false variety seen below, have been seen as Town and Mafia.

how you could possible say that the inventor isn't a helpful role, is beyond me.


Monk redirects to MASON in the MAFIA wiki.
Please tell me prof whose role isn't in the mafia scum wiki?



Well, I was answering only that part of the post so I deleted all the other remaining stuff.



spurgeonryan said:
Wonk has not claimed any power roles. To me cojo would only bring him in so fast if he had. A power role or if he is mafia.
Unvote:whoever I voted for (Mr. Pills?)

Vote: wonk

I think your our best choice for the day. No one will ever trust prof. Its no reason to vote him especially if no one is going to vote for him either. See mantle! I did not hammer this time.

I claimed MACHO! and even said that Conjo added that I couldn't be targeted by helpful roles either. I do hope you didn't waste your role on me last night.



Wonktonodi said:
Macho is a role modifier that prevents players from being protected from kills in any way.

The modifier was first developed as a way to neutralise follow the cop strategies that exist in Cop/Doc set-ups, preventing the Cop from gaining the Doctor's protection. Macho Cop is still the most common role associated with this modifier, but other roles have used it for balance and design reasons.

This role modifier is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

real role prof with only a slight difference.


Inventor
Inventor
Alias: none
Alignment: any
Role type:

Support
Multipurpose

Choice:

Night

The Inventor is a role that can give out various gadgets to other players. Each gadget typically provides one shot of a Power Role, such as a one-shot kill, a one-shot investigation, a one-shot bulletproof, etc. These gadgets are chosen from a list included in the Inventor's Role PM.

Inventors cannot simply use their own gadgets themselves, and usually cannot give Inventions to themselves; they generally must give them to another player to use. An Inventor who is able to use their own gadgets is almost always better off simply using them themselves.

Inventors, including the false variety seen below, have been seen as Town and Mafia.

how you could possible say that the inventor isn't a helpful role, is beyond me.


Monk redirects to MASON in the MAFIA wiki.
Please tell me prof whose role isn't in the mafia scum wiki?

Just like Nen, you make shit up about me. I never said I was a monk, but that my character is a monk. My role is voteless hotel guest.

Under voteless, my role exists as a modifier to a player in games where vote shenanigans occur. Given that we now have three, my role fits in well with that qualifier. Yours on the other hand, does not fit the qualifier, becuase you are not a cop. You are a vanilla townie with a poorly implemented role on top of it, literally there for no reason at all, if you are to be believed.

j0 may have simply let pezus use all his own powers. Maybe someone should reread pezus and see what kinds of comments he said? That is in fact a very good idea, since I doubt he would be allowed to give items to mafia, everyone is denying getting one, and seeing who he targeted might actually be used to find mafia.

Anything else you'd like to discuss.



Spurge what was your result on Wonk last night?