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So, what do you suggest Prof? Pick up where we left off and lynch Wonk, who was about to be lynched before the replacement took place? You say Stefl is scum, but you don't want to vote for him? Chances are Linkz could have been blocked by different means. There is no guarantee he scanned anybody, but he at least said he was 95% sure Nen was town. I know he was happy Stefl wasn't lynched, but I believe that was for another reason. I said Stefl was probably scum because of his lack of posting and then he proceeded to say he was town because of the same reasoning. He also said even if I voted we probably wouldn't get enough people and was thankful to Noc for not hammering, which I had forgotten about. Surely scum would hammer someone if they had the chance...




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spurgeonryan said:
I would like everyones take on Mantle and the prof asap.

Stefl I would like you to say something besides being defensive to everyone when you finally decide to grace us with your presence.


~decided to grace you with my presence~

I have nothing to add to the theme of my role.

Prof, you asked me yesterday what about the people I think are more scum than FF, it was spurge and mantle, looking at how FF turned town and Spurge claimed a ghostbuster, I am left with mantle on my high priority scum list.

Vote: mantle

I also don't like that rushvote at the start of the day and with the list narrowing down due to players getting moar cleared/ I am getting a clearer read on them / players dying.

With looking at my list I am currently at:

mantle, wonk as people I am pretty sure of being scum.

mario, wiibox and nen as people who could be a remaining scum. Though prof cleared wiibox I am not really sure about wiibox being cleared... I am taking profs word on this, and due to thinking prof is town I also have to believe him (urgh, how I hate myself for having to say that)

now Noc and prof are both 100% town in my eyes, spurge is pretty much cleared as long as no one counterclaims (which I don't believe).



theprof00 said:
nen-suer said:

You were too sure that Linkz scanned me prof so what happened >_>

Anywho i'll speed things up and help prof with his "readings"

Vote: Noctis

His role claim at this point is the most fishy, his behaviour fits with his mafia play and not to mention his lack of any reaction to prof's voteless claim.

What happened? I came back to reality is what happened. You could be a godfather, could you not?

Of course. When logic leads no where we turn to the "what ifs"

spurgeonryan said:
I am not a nurse. It is totally different than you would think. Also why I do not want to lynch stefl first because I think there is a possibility he is sort of like me by the way he was talking, but he was too stubborn and rude to even give me a hint. He says he is a vanilla town ..right now.... 
Which is also why I did not visit him last night.

Good that i'm not the only one who noticed. This and he's one of Linkz possible scans do i dont prefer to lynch him at least for today.

theprof00 said:
Its not mind games.
Thats my read. Even after you claimed i said i didnt buy your claim.
You and nen are so incredibly linked and i want to know why.
press nen then if youre so town.
Nen has not engaged in any real scumhunting so far at end of day 1.

Now i'm linkzed with Mario ? What happens to Noc?!

And if it was so "incredibly" obvious why didnt you notice it until now?! This makes zero sense even if its you.



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theprof00 said:
nen-suer said:
mantlepiecek said:
Besides I am not sure a scum can have a post restriction placed on him.

The variant we see here doesnt really affect the post content so this role (if exsist) can be either town or scum role imo.

Nen, what is this post about? The variant? Up to this point, noc doesn't say anything about the vote restriction. What are you talking about?

Noc says whatever he want he just have to mention his pills....as in he didnt seems to have any restriction on the content of his posts

spurgeonryan said:
Town I am sorry that I am being a broken record but I think we should lynch the prof today and soon before he brings more doubt and confusion. You all led the lynch train in the crucifixion of final fan yesterday and were dead wrong. Let me lead the lynch train on the prof. Unless he is hiding a watcher role or something like that he is scum. Imo. Noc has put too much attention on himself and said too little to be scum. He is a veteran player who would not do that. He is lucky to get past day one with how he has acted. Forget about him. The prof has skipped over reading mantle three times now and will probably do so to just prove me wrong now.

Let's stop the bleeding and take care of the prof. Can I get an Amen? Wiibox? NoCtis? Stefl? Everyone else? Other than the prof who could not vote for himself if he wanted to.

If it wasnt for prof voteless monk claim and FF flip he'd still be my no1 lynch for today. Thats how scummy and devistating to the town his play is.

He said he will read back and quickly clears Mantel and focus on me & Mario and pretty much post every thing we said when quoting each other.

Believing Noc claim over Mario who claimed day 1 without any pressure?1

I'll finsh up my readings then i'll get back on prof case once more.



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theprof00 said:
Why do you think I have a track record of being killed night one and two every game? Because I'm bad at town? No, I'm quite good at town.

So how come your alive until now. Its either your scum or your playing badly right ?

theprof00 said:

Serial killer nen. Says "he played as town". (I still wonder how that's any different from acting town this round)

In my last game Rol praised me my play, but you said "meh, it was coze he was the sk and was really scum hunting. He is an easy read to me"

Now you say this?!

So answer me this..where you an immature brat who didn't like others getting praised last round or you have different agenda this round.

Dont answer this coze i know you do, but lets post than in a new post.



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They say that good lies contain half truths, and that's the case with prof's claim.
He claimed voteless Monk and no one bothered (me included) to check if there is anything he forgot
to mention

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Monk

*Votes do not count during the day.
*Can save one person each night.
*That person is also unlynchable the next day.
*Wins if he saves 2 people.
*Alternately, wins if no one dies for 2 day and nights.

Prof is 3rd party, with how small the game was and the lack of a second kill during the night i didn't consider
the possibility of 3rd parties in this round.
Unlike other 3rd parties with no killing roles this one doesn't seem to win with town.
He just need the game to lasts as long as possible so that he can save two people and win.

The penalty for voting may not be a modkilled after call specially since he did say it, my guess it most likely
that he cant use his NA on the next night.

While his role may help protect from kills at night it can make mafia unlynchable the next day and that's
a scary thought.



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Who do you guys think prof targeted last night ?

He dont want Noc or stefl lynched today. My guess he targeted who he thinks a town player to save him from lynch today

(Mario, Wonk, me)

Re-reading his post in my head now its obvious how he's trying to have the game to last as long as possible (and how

we can stil afford 1-2 mislynches)

Lynching mafia now means the game could end tomorow and he doesnt want that.

 

Noc is scum i'm sure of it, so should we go ahead and lynch him or get rid of prof who could screw us over with his protections?

At this point i vote prof....Noc can wait for tomorow, leaving him live one more night wont increase the night kills.



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Unvote: Noctis

I'm Enabling you all to win this so offer me your cookies and....

Vote: Prof



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supermario128 said:
So, what do you suggest Prof? Pick up where we left off and lynch Wonk, who was about to be lynched before the replacement took place? You say Stefl is scum, but you don't want to vote for him? Chances are Linkz could have been blocked by different means. There is no guarantee he scanned anybody, but he at least said he was 95% sure Nen was town. I know he was happy Stefl wasn't lynched, but I believe that was for another reason. I said Stefl was probably scum because of his lack of posting and then he proceeded to say he was town because of the same reasoning. He also said even if I voted we probably wouldn't get enough people and was thankful to Noc for not hammering, which I had forgotten about. Surely scum would hammer someone if they had the chance...

no, no, you're right. I don't know why I'm trying to perfect the lynch targets. That's not my job :(



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4718675

1Yep, when logic leads to dead ends, look again. Very true. I always saw a bit of mario in there, just check back the link I put out on day 1.
2I was back and forth on whether or not to trust Mario. I must say that day one was very suspect for him and most of day 2 as well, but he's gotten better. However, there are quite a few posts where you and he are mentioned for doing similar things, like parroting Linkz' whole "voteless is imbalanced", asking why both mario and linkz find nen townie. There's quite a few. This linking you to mario isn't a new thing, but more something that wasn't fleshed out until logic hit a wall, wherein I had to reevaluate. And NOW that I look back on it, you guys say the same things almost word for word. When you wanted to ask your question day 1, you changed your mind, and people even asked you to ask the question and you said no. Then magically day two, you're all like "Oh what the heck, WHY are you a miller". Seemed very disingenuine with the "Oh what the heck".

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4718690

1. Explain to me how that variant could be mafia or town, as opposed to a different variant. I would like this theory fleshed out. I have a hard time thinking of different post restricted variants other than "must vote for X" or "cannot talk to Y" and at that point either of them could have been true. Furthermore, he doesn't even say "pills" in every post, which should be an immediate note that saying it is not his restriction.

2. Devastating? I'm the reason claims like mario's janitor last game don't go through the whole game. I take time to reevaluate. I didn't "quickly read Mantle" I went through all his posts and posted them for you. All the things he was called scummy for don't exist. His "defensiveness" with Spurge? No, it looks like he was hunting spurge. Everyone says you are easy to read....mantle is even easier. Look at round 42. He just sits back and doesn't say anything in particular. No fingering anyone, just suggestions...you know...like what you're doing. You say I'm believing noc claim over Mario? I don't even know what that means. Mario's claim has nothing, literally nothing to do, with the validity of noc's claim.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4718715

1. Because obviously mafia have roles to target. Hey, I'm just a mouth. But roles can be devastating. Has nothing to do with me.
2. So why is it you can't find a mafia this game when you were so good at it that game? Sure you had motive, but is it really so impossible to think that you've learned how to channel that "scumhunting vibe?". I agree it's easier when you have a definite target, but you're more experienced now than 3 games ago, why is that impossible to understand?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4718721

1. Starting to border on stretching, nen. Are you so desperate? Tell me, a game that last as long as possible....it would be to my benefit to lynch mafia then, correct? And with two docs night one, no save? Just really. I don't even know why I'm humoring this theory, but you at least deserve a response. Really poor work on this. I am voteless, and my votes carry consequence. I already told you I can remove myself from the game. Don't you listen>?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4718734

1. So this is going to be the angle now? I PUSHED PEOPLE TO HAMMER STEFL DAY 2. Have you LOST your mind?
Oh good, so your townies are wonk, yourself, and mario. Nice long list. Put a lot of work into it I see. One claimed miller, one you've said almost zero about all game, and yourself. Brilliant. So you want to lynch noc or me? Vote whoever you want nen. I'm not 100% against noc. I don't see the case against him. I see "oh his role seems weird and he didn't call you out". Wasn't it just yesterday when people said MY ROLE was imbalanced and impossible, and then a perma voter appears? In fact, yes. You even parroted what Linkz said, despite that town has two players extra (if total of three mafia) without thinking. Yeah, I'm going to trust you on meta advice. No thanks. BUT, Noc could be mafia, so I'm not completely against it. Show me a case.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4718741
It's just sad now. If you want, like I've said many times now, I will remove myself tomorrow if I'm such a problem, or, you can simply lynch a mafia if I'm lying. That's a great deal. NO WAIT. I'm a monk who can't be lynched!! LOL I will have tricked every1!1!!!1!1