Chark said:
dharh said:
I don't disagree that it is niche. Just like mobile phone gaming itself atm is niche when you complare to dedicated gaming, even dedicated gaming.
But gamers will go where the games are. And if developers are fed up with the huge costs and expectations of the Big Three, then there are very few places left to look. I can easily see the OUYA as being the indie alternative haven for consoles. Id much rather play mincraft and super meat boy on an OUYA than waste my time doing it through XLBA.
You don't need to pirate games when they are so cheap, though im sure you will still see them. You won't see monstrous $30-60 games often, if not at all, on OUYA. People pirate for a couple reasons, one of them being because of cost. Lower that barrier and less people will feel compelled to pirate.
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Which highlights one of my original points. PlayStation Mobile. Essentially it is exactly what OUYA is bringing. A free open dev platform but under a undeniable brand with an initial instal base that no developer is going to laugh at. It's the cheap app and game market home consoles have been missing while iOS and Android have been running around the mobile space. PS Mobile is already making waves with developers, maybe OUYA is too, but from my understanding OUYA is starting right now. Despite the hardware advantage OUYA will have PS Mobile is going to provide the market for the same development groups. OUYA might already be too late.
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I'm going to blatantly rip off someone elses post I saw elsewhere (bolded parts are me):
"A lot of fud blogs are getting it wrong, sometimes intentionally I think.
There is no way it's a "scam" They have one of the highest profile design firms behind it, a Paypal exec an angle investor, inexile owner (wasteland 2) an investor, the CEO a 7 figure a year exec..the amount of money raised doesn't equal these peoples yearly combined salary. Not to mention NONE of them would ever work in any senior level position EVER again.
This is very easily going to cost them less than $100
You can grind out controllers for $5 a pop. (heres one for $3 [1] http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/543814771/2012_new_hot_good_usb_game.html)
The processor is $25 ([2] http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nvidia-Tegra-3-Costs-Between-15-25-11-3-to-18-9-Says-Company-236695.shtml)
RAM is $1 (link to 4gig ddr2 if you buy 5000:[3] http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/465823438/39M5791_ddr2_4_GB_tested_pc2700.html?s=p)
What's the board, bluetooth,wifi, and ports? $10 max. (heres a link to an entire kinect knock off :[4] http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/563927145/Hot_iMove_video_game_console_TV.html for $25)
The above are a bit iffy, if for nothing else than that its suspect if the kinect clone or the controllers are of any substantial quality compared to the real counterparts, but otherwise this is pretty spot on.
It's safe to say this console might be costing them $60 - $70 shipped.
Regardless of how successful it is, this is what you can expect in the way of games.
1.Emulators: Emulators are definitely going to support this. You can count on launch support. Whether OUYA allows them or not is another matter entirely. IOS doesn't and Android sometimes takes them down. But being the console is hackable, they'll definitely be there. This lends to the idea that piracy will be a major driving force for OUYA, but this can also be a major boon for OUYA as well, see furthers paragraph below for the reason why.
2.Android ports: All an android port would require is controller support. Even though OUYA may have a small user base it will still be attractive to those who would like more traction on their games. For big names like Angry Birds it's a no brainer they can afford the cost if for no other reason than presence.
3.3rd party markets: Both Steam & Onlive are on android. Both support controllers so it's pretty likely that both of these guys will port just for the presence. Gabe especially considering how he's come out against current console manufacturers. Unfortunately the android steam thing is just a way to browes your steam account and potential buy stuff, but not much more than that. Could be that in the future Steam attempts to make a real steam counterpart on android like their PC steam client, but for now its not a real game store _for_ android gaming.
4.OUYA specific launch titles: Double Fine has said they are on board. Wasteland 2, Inexile owner is an investor. Wasteland 2 is being built on unity 3 which makes a port a matter of using the proper plugin to compile. I know a bunch of smaller guys are on board but they haven't announced anything concrete. You can count me and my team onboard. I aint no-one special, but we will get every game we make on this.
This console is not meant to go toe to toe with the big three. Where it will go toe to toe with them is the Indie, back stock games. If OUYA has any kind of following emulation alone will wipe out the PS1/PS2/Nintendo catalogs. Who's going to buy back dated games at $10 a pop when you can grab an OUYA and get all and more for $100? Even at 500,000 install base OUYA will be as compelling to devs as xbl,android and ios market. The crowd maybe smaller but so will the OUYA market place, easier to get above the white noise."
Almost the exact reason why PSP was as popular as it was. For the CFW and emulation.