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M.U.G.E.N said:
crissindahouse said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
 

 

@Criss: yep and I guessed exactly what your post will be like as well :P Typical

that's possible, now what i the bigger joke? i still believe wondering about that is better than being one of the "fighters" (but yeah, always wondering about it is stupid as well)

but when i read just as example that:

M.U.G.E.N said:
lol so many MS balls

and no they are still building while now sony already have a solid infrastructure and it's mainly aimed at gaming. MS have yet to show anything of the like. This is PR nonsense as usual.

And to the guy who said about cloud saves, sony have it too you know. iirc they brought it first to ps3, before ms did for xbox

i wonder why you have to even say that? andrespetmonkey asked a question and that guy answered it, why do you think "omg now i have to say sony has it as well for a long time because...no clue..."

as if he was saying something against sony, he just asnwered a question.

you drunk or something? Your first part of the reply is a bunch of jibberish

as for part two

facepalm. At least try to comprehend what you read. My response was to show that even THAT use of cloud has been done before by Sony, hence the whole catch up scenario does not apply to them. 

I did not attack the guy, I just pointed something out. Me and thranx, and me and sales, none of us are fighting here. It has been a perfectly reasonable discussion from different points of view. If you are so narrow minded and have nothing contribute, please just buzz off. And if you do have something to say to someone, stop being a chicken and say so upfront without snarky ambiguous comments. 

I do not care what your opinion about me, or anyone else is. Just stop jumping to conclusions based on your preconcieved notions. It makes for a rather stupid set of comments. The only reason I even bothered to reply to you is because this is not the first time you did this.

yes because i always wonder about fanboys, that's why i post it sometimes. btw you didn't quote my full text (i edited it at the same time)

and i didn't say you attacked the guy...but he just answered a question to someone who asked if microsoft has cloud service for xbox yet and that sony has cloud service for playstation. he said to andres that microsoft has cloud service and then you have to say him "sony has it as well you know" when andrespetmonkey already said that and he only answered andres's question? you see? it makes no sense what you did!

and with fighting, i don't really mean fighting^^  just "oh something "against"" sony, i have to clear that up.

i'm not "narrow minded", but you are talking about pr nonsense and things like that which has simply nothing to do with the topic, so learn to understand what you read or you should stop posting. you just talk about something in op which isn't in op...so yeah, maybe you didn't really read op but next time you contribute to a topic learn first to understand the topic before you say somebody else that he is narrow minded. but if it makes you happy to call people like that gratz for that.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
 Fact of the matter is Sony have made the first major move into cloud console gaming with gaikai. MS have not.

That has not been established yet.

 

Also regarding your comment on sony cloud, I think you confuse online hosting with "cloud servers"  and alot of other parameters.



crissindahouse said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
crissindahouse said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
 

 

@Criss: yep and I guessed exactly what your post will be like as well :P Typical

that's possible, now what i the bigger joke? i still believe wondering about that is better than being one of the "fighters" (but yeah, always wondering about it is stupid as well)

but when i read just as example that:

M.U.G.E.N said:
lol so many MS balls

and no they are still building while now sony already have a solid infrastructure and it's mainly aimed at gaming. MS have yet to show anything of the like. This is PR nonsense as usual.

And to the guy who said about cloud saves, sony have it too you know. iirc they brought it first to ps3, before ms did for xbox

i wonder why you have to even say that? andrespetmonkey asked a question and that guy answered it, why do you think "omg now i have to say sony has it as well for a long time because...no clue..."

as if he was saying something against sony, he just asnwered a question.

you drunk or something? Your first part of the reply is a bunch of jibberish

as for part two

facepalm. At least try to comprehend what you read. My response was to show that even THAT use of cloud has been done before by Sony, hence the whole catch up scenario does not apply to them. 

I did not attack the guy, I just pointed something out. Me and thranx, and me and sales, none of us are fighting here. It has been a perfectly reasonable discussion from different points of view. If you are so narrow minded and have nothing contribute, please just buzz off. And if you do have something to say to someone, stop being a chicken and say so upfront without snarky ambiguous comments. 

I do not care what your opinion about me, or anyone else is. Just stop jumping to conclusions based on your preconcieved notions. It makes for a rather stupid set of comments. The only reason I even bothered to reply to you is because this is not the first time you did this.

yes because i always wonder about fanboys, that's why i post it sometimes. btw you didn't quote my full text (i edited it at the same time)

and i didn't say you attacked the guy...but he just answered a question to someone who asked if microsoft has cloud service for xbox yet and that sony has cloud service for playstation. he said to andres that microsoft has cloud service and then you have to say him "sony has it as well you know" when andrespetmonkey already said that and he only answered andres's question? you see? it makes no sense what you did!

and with fighting, i don't really mean fighting^^  just "oh something "against"" sony, i have to clear that up.

i'm not "narrow minded", but you are talking about pr nonsense and things like that which has simply nothing to do with the topic, so learn to understand what you read or you should stop posting. you just talk about something in op which isn't in op...so yeah, maybe you didn't really read op but next time you contribute to a topic learn first to understand the topic before you say somebody else that he is narrow minded. but if it makes you happy to call people like that gratz for that.


you are definitely narrow minded and already have showed that clearly. I have read the OP. The one here acting clueless is you. My and thranx discussion has nothing to do with the ramblings you are making. Not sure why you are so butt hurt about that. You invested in MS or something? I really don't understand your issue here. SO far the discussion/argument has been about cloud, playinc catch up and the focus of each company. You are the one who came in whining about oh noez someone said something, I kidna knew, not gonna tell who cuz I'm just like that bla bla bla. If you have an issue with someones post man up and just say so up front. No need to hide behind a rant

'MY' comment has nothing to do with andre, my comment was aimed at the guy who said that to tell him that he is right but even that can not be used to defend this PR. If that part was not clear to you for some reason you could have just asked without jumping to conclusions. But like I said you are narrow minded and already made up your mind when you saw my comment due to your previous ill concieved notions. Can't help that, especially if you can't even accept you are in the wrong. Whatever makes you feel good I suppose'

Like I said if whining and bitching is all you could do, could you at least stay away from other people's discussions? neither me, nor thranx and ironically even Sales is 'defending' a company here. We have been perfectly on topic until you came in with your vague and stupid comment. You have managed to derail a thread with your ignorance. Congrats



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mor2 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
 Fact of the matter is Sony have made the first major move into cloud console gaming with gaikai. MS have not.

That has not been established yet.

 

Also regarding your comment on sony cloud, I think you confuse online hosting with "cloud servers"  and alot of other parameters.

buying a company specialize in cloud gaming, it's only logical to say that they have made the first step towards that. I'm sure they will use them for other avenues in their businesses as well for certain. That I agree with

as for the bolded, could you please expand on that and explain it to me. I honestly would like to learn about it more. 



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M.U.G.E.N said:
crissindahouse said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
crissindahouse said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
 

 

@Criss: yep and I guessed exactly what your post will be like as well :P Typical

that's possible, now what i the bigger joke? i still believe wondering about that is better than being one of the "fighters" (but yeah, always wondering about it is stupid as well)

but when i read just as example that:

M.U.G.E.N said:
lol so many MS balls

and no they are still building while now sony already have a solid infrastructure and it's mainly aimed at gaming. MS have yet to show anything of the like. This is PR nonsense as usual.

And to the guy who said about cloud saves, sony have it too you know. iirc they brought it first to ps3, before ms did for xbox

i wonder why you have to even say that? andrespetmonkey asked a question and that guy answered it, why do you think "omg now i have to say sony has it as well for a long time because...no clue..."

as if he was saying something against sony, he just asnwered a question.

you drunk or something? Your first part of the reply is a bunch of jibberish

as for part two

facepalm. At least try to comprehend what you read. My response was to show that even THAT use of cloud has been done before by Sony, hence the whole catch up scenario does not apply to them. 

I did not attack the guy, I just pointed something out. Me and thranx, and me and sales, none of us are fighting here. It has been a perfectly reasonable discussion from different points of view. If you are so narrow minded and have nothing contribute, please just buzz off. And if you do have something to say to someone, stop being a chicken and say so upfront without snarky ambiguous comments. 

I do not care what your opinion about me, or anyone else is. Just stop jumping to conclusions based on your preconcieved notions. It makes for a rather stupid set of comments. The only reason I even bothered to reply to you is because this is not the first time you did this.

yes because i always wonder about fanboys, that's why i post it sometimes. btw you didn't quote my full text (i edited it at the same time)

and i didn't say you attacked the guy...but he just answered a question to someone who asked if microsoft has cloud service for xbox yet and that sony has cloud service for playstation. he said to andres that microsoft has cloud service and then you have to say him "sony has it as well you know" when andrespetmonkey already said that and he only answered andres's question? you see? it makes no sense what you did!

and with fighting, i don't really mean fighting^^  just "oh something "against"" sony, i have to clear that up.

i'm not "narrow minded", but you are talking about pr nonsense and things like that which has simply nothing to do with the topic, so learn to understand what you read or you should stop posting. you just talk about something in op which isn't in op...so yeah, maybe you didn't really read op but next time you contribute to a topic learn first to understand the topic before you say somebody else that he is narrow minded. but if it makes you happy to call people like that gratz for that.


you are definitely narrow minded and already have showed that clearly. I have read the OP. The one here acting clueless is you. My and thranx discussion has nothing to do with the ramblings you are making. Not sure why you are so butt hurt about that. You invested in MS or something? I really don't understand your issue here. SO far the discussion/argument has been about cloud, playinc catch up and the focus of each company. You are the one who came in whining about oh noez someone said something, I kidna knew, not gonna tell who cuz I'm just like that bla bla bla. If you have an issue with someones post man up and just say so up front. No need to hide behind a rant

'MY' comment has nothing to do with andre, my comment was aimed at the guy who said that to tell him that he is right but even that can not be used to defend this PR. If that part was not clear to you for some reason you could have just asked without jumping to conclusions. But like I said you are narrow minded and already made up your mind when you saw my comment due to your previous ill concieved notions. Can't help that, especially if you can't even accept you are in the wrong. Whatever makes you feel good I suppose'

Like I said if whining and bitching is all you could do, could you at least stay away from other people's discussions? neither me, nor thranx and ironically even Sales is 'defending' a company here. We have been perfectly on topic until you came in with your vague and stupid comment. You have managed to derail a thread with your ignorance. Congrats

no i'm not narrow minded. i'm pretty sure i'm very much the opposite of that but still thx! and no, i have no investments in microsoft and i don't care if this news is about microsoft or general motors and when did i say something about your dicussion with tranx? i don't even know why you always have to talk about that discussion when i never said something about that.

and i believe you still don't get it, andres said playstation+ uses cloud and asked if microsoft uses it yet and the guy responded to him and said "mcirosoft uses it for some time now". why exactly do you have to say him sony uses it too if he already knows it? he didn't say anything else and even if he wouldn't have known it, he read it in andres his post where he alrady said it. and you still don't stop talking about that "pr" in op but it isn't pr. do you understand what i try to say you all the time? you say it is pr when an analyst and the guy from mastertronic/ukie talk about microsoft...it's like i would have said yesterday that pachter is a pr guy for sony because he was talking about sony yesterday.

i like how you try to tell me that i don't want to accept that i am wrong when you clearly still don't get what i even talk about and that you still talk about pr in op which isn't pr.

so please, if i am wrong all the time and i can't accept that i am wrong, please explain me why i am wrong. if i am wrong you have to be right. so please explain me why it is pr? if you really understood op you should easily explain me why i am wrong saying it isn't pr and why you are right.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
thranx said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

 

They are claiming sony is playing catch up to something no one knows about lol.


MS has done alot of work in cloud service. The claims that sony is playing catch up is true. MS has various patents for cloud services and already sells said cloud services to other companies and governments. Sony has not.


Again I don't get what you guys are going on about.

Patents? Really? You do realize ALL companies have a huge amount of patents right? Have you gone through sony patents to confirm they do not? I assure you they will as well

Sony have brought cloud to gaming as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but they were the first to bring it to consoles. They already use it in their other services and devices. But by definition to 'catch up' there should be something material to catch up to. MS has shown nothing comparable to Gaikai. Sony now have Gaikai's tech and all their assets with this investment. Fact of the matter is you and sales both are using things that have yet to be shown as justification for this statement, which is nonsesense. 

Fact of the matter is your willingly being blind to corporate politics. MS has cloud infrastructure and they dont have to reveal its extent if they dont want to. 

MS said so they are investing in Cloud, news now is saying Sony is playing catchup......your just spinning and seeing things how you want them. So am I but I have these news statements to back me up. 



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sales2099 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
thranx said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

 

They are claiming sony is playing catch up to something no one knows about lol.


MS has done alot of work in cloud service. The claims that sony is playing catch up is true. MS has various patents for cloud services and already sells said cloud services to other companies and governments. Sony has not.


Again I don't get what you guys are going on about.

Patents? Really? You do realize ALL companies have a huge amount of patents right? Have you gone through sony patents to confirm they do not? I assure you they will as well

Sony have brought cloud to gaming as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but they were the first to bring it to consoles. They already use it in their other services and devices. But by definition to 'catch up' there should be something material to catch up to. MS has shown nothing comparable to Gaikai. Sony now have Gaikai's tech and all their assets with this investment. Fact of the matter is you and sales both are using things that have yet to be shown as justification for this statement, which is nonsesense. 

Fact of the matter is your willingly being blind to corporate politics. MS has cloud infrastructure and they dont have to reveal its extent if they dont want to. 

MS said so they are investing in Cloud, news now is saying Sony is playing catchup......your just spinning and seeing things how you want them. So am I but I have these news statements to back me up. 


lol fact of the matter is you have nothing to talk about other than PR. I'm sure MS have that but it has yet to be shown in the gaming department to claim 'catch up' for sony. Sony have been investing in cloud based services too. It's not a spin. I'm just talking about things we know for certain. You on the other hand talk about things even you yourself can't confirm. You have PR to back you up not 'news' statements. Might as well not have any back up at all. 

@criss: I'm not gonna read that cuz if I do, this is not gonna end. You will see what you want to see I guess. Not gonna bother with you any longer.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
lol so many MS balls

and no they are still building while now sony already have a solid infrastructure and it's mainly aimed at gaming. MS have yet to show anything of the like. This is PR nonsense as usual.

And to the guy who said about cloud saves, sony have it too you know. iirc they brought it first to ps3, before ms did for xbox

They haven't brought gaikai to the ps3 yet, it will still be years before they can integrate gaikai in to their platform and MS has shown their own "cloud" abilities .......

http://arstechnica.com/business/2011/10/windows-azure-faster-than-amazon-ec2-and-google-app-engine-in-yearlong-cloud-speed-test/



M.U.G.E.N said:
 

 

@criss: I'm not gonna read that cuz if I do, this is not gonna end. You will see what you want to see I guess. Not gonna bother with you any longer.

yeah sure, calling me narrow minded and that i can't accept that i'm wrong but when i clearly proof that you are wrong and not me you just stop with the discussion riiight!

so just to put this together. i said two things in the whole discussion:

1. you are talking about pr nonsense all the time when it has nothing to do with pr when an analyst and a guy from ukie talk about microsoft. if this would be the case, pachter would be a pr guy as well because he talked about sony yesterday.

2. you said someone that sony has cloud as well for playstation to explain him that saying xbox has cloud can't be used to defend the "pr" in op when he only responded to andres his question about cloud for xbox that xbox has cloud for some time now. and andres already said playstation has cloud which the guy didn't deny or anything.



M.U.G.E.N said:
sales2099 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
thranx said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

 

They are claiming sony is playing catch up to something no one knows about lol.


MS has done alot of work in cloud service. The claims that sony is playing catch up is true. MS has various patents for cloud services and already sells said cloud services to other companies and governments. Sony has not.


Again I don't get what you guys are going on about.

Patents? Really? You do realize ALL companies have a huge amount of patents right? Have you gone through sony patents to confirm they do not? I assure you they will as well

Sony have brought cloud to gaming as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but they were the first to bring it to consoles. They already use it in their other services and devices. But by definition to 'catch up' there should be something material to catch up to. MS has shown nothing comparable to Gaikai. Sony now have Gaikai's tech and all their assets with this investment. Fact of the matter is you and sales both are using things that have yet to be shown as justification for this statement, which is nonsesense. 

Fact of the matter is your willingly being blind to corporate politics. MS has cloud infrastructure and they dont have to reveal its extent if they dont want to. 

MS said so they are investing in Cloud, news now is saying Sony is playing catchup......your just spinning and seeing things how you want them. So am I but I have these news statements to back me up. 


lol fact of the matter is you have nothing to talk about other than PR. I'm sure MS have that but it has yet to be shown in the gaming department to claim 'catch up' for sony. Sony have been investing in cloud based services too. It's not a spin. I'm just talking about things we know for certain. You on the other hand talk about things even you yourself can't confirm. You have PR to back you up not 'news' statements. Might as well not have any back up at all. 

@criss: I'm not gonna read that cuz if I do, this is not gonna end. You will see what you want to see I guess. Not gonna bother with you any longer.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=145085&page=1#8  MS says Cloud has been their agenda for years. 

http://arstechnica.com/business/2011/10/windows-azure-faster-than-amazon-ec2-and-google-app-engine-in-yearlong-cloud-speed-test/ The writing in the link says it all. 

The news here from UKIE Chairman.....who knows more about this stuff then you and me, says Sony is playing catchup. 

We have no concrete details, but you assume MS has nothing because they told us nothing.....and that is ignorance at its finest. Sony spent 380 million to play catchup and I find it funny you just cant deal. 

But to put it as simple as possible. UKIE Chairman opinion > yours. 



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