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Just some thoughts because I may not be very readily available in the upcoming days. Perhaps tomorrow at the latest. I will be gone for most of the weekend except for very limited phone access as I'll be at Connecticon (anime nerd shit) working the show. 40 hours of work plus dinner with the employees, starting thursday.
to get it out of the way:
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So apparently, linkz was not blocked but ninja'd, or at least watcher ninja'd.
This explains why they took out Linkz.

It's also possible that mafia does have a blocker of some sort.

Thought 2: No cop has shown up thus far. Please everyone be extremely cautious. We know all the night kills that have occurred so far and IIRC, FF was townie, wonk janitor, linkz watcher. So none have slipped past our radar. Just be careful that tomorrow, should a non-claimed show up dead and "???" and a cop miraculously show up, be wary.

Now, if a cop does show up and makes claims, please go and check all the people they investigated, and note the cop's attitude toward those players before anything happens. A cop going into day 4 without a claim is extremely unlikely. I'm not saying don't trust the cop, just be careful. Don't do what happened last game and follow a fake cop.

As for the doc, well, there's still a possible shitty doc. They don't need to claim, as without a watcher they are pretty much helpless. Just go about your business doc.

Thought 3: I think we have 2 lynches ahead of us, but just be careful, if there is a third party survivor, they could turn on us to help scum win, keeping himself alive, but as long as town is in control, the survivor should help us nail scum.


Thought 4: This has to do with lynch requirement, but I'll talk about this later after everyone has checked in.

Thought 5: I'm going to start by listing the people I believe are town: Radish,mantle,j0. Everyone else I believe is up for grabs imo. My list of suspects includes pezus, mario, and notstan. I believe the remaining mafia are in this list.
I'll try to check Mario's posts out tomorrow along with the others. I just didn't get a good read of him last night for whatever reason.



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supermario128 said:

Radish is pretty much confirmed as our town tracker. Hopefully he saw something last night.

It seems weird that Prof is still alive. It is either because he is mafia or because he hasn't been as active and as vocal as he usually is. I'm leaning towards town for him, but only slightly.

Jo has been active and has been trying to contribute. It just seemed weird that he didn't vote for Wiibox, but when people started to question why, he placed his vote. I realize the day would have ended the same way either way, but my point still stands. I still have a pro town vibe from him though.

Pezus, I'm not sure about. I am inclined to say he is town by the way he has played (similar to previous games), but I don't think that is enough to confirm anything.

NoStan's vanilla townie claim early on seemed a bit weird to me then, and it still seems weird now. He hasn't been as active as of late either, so he could be trying to lay low. I'm leaning towards mafia for him, but I could be wrong.

Mantle is who I would be voting for today, if I were to vote. The way he defended Wiibox yesterday just seemed weird. He didn't out right say he was defending him and he even denied it, but trying to shift the attention to me and bringing up the point that he didn't want to mislynch seemed off. He even went as far as to vote for Radish. Like I already said, it was a win win situation for us. If Radish was lying we would have lynched him today and we only lost a vanilla. If he was telling the truth we lynch a mafia and keep our tracker. Only mafia would miss something as obvious and simple as that. He is our best option at the moment unless Radish saw anything.

ONLY mafia would miss? Or....someone who is a replacement and knows too less of the game compared to even the scum members?

If you are town, you aren't nearly concentrating enough at scumhunting. Also my logic on voting you was perfect. It wasn't as ridiculous as yours is right now.

And I knew radish wasn't getting lynched. I am glad the town listened to him now because that means we have two cleared townies. Radish and linkz both.

I also didn't push for his lynch citing over and over my own distrust in my reads.

I will be voting for whoever radish votes for now. That is most likely.



c03n3nj0 said:
Erm, I'm currently not at home. I'll be home tomorrow night.

Anyways!

@Mako, did you not see my response to you yesterday? Or are you simply not accepting my explanation?

As for today, I still have my case against pezuz. Although he has turned around his actions from what I was pointing out - simply put he's actually been posting more. He hasn't entered the clear, though, so an HoS remains. I'll look more into this when I get home tomorrow.

Now, mantle needs to come here and explain himself. Radish has been cleared, and so has linkz for that matter. Honestly, I don't see a mafia going head-to-head with claimed-roles like he did. The odds were overwemingly against his favor - wiibox was going to be lynched.

I just... argh. Explain yourself.

How should I explain?

A watcher immune is surely a rare role? I didn't even know such a role exists. I thought linkz was lying about getting blocked (which in the end turned out to be false). He would have to be lying if radish was telling the truth.

But then radish ... it was also possible that radish was lying about being a tracker. He came out on day 2 and declared that he is the watcher (in a way), I thought maybe him and Linkz planned out two good safe roles. I though either they knew something about the town (which I assumed wrongly) or they were taking a huge risk anyway.

But out of the two I felt radish was scummier so I had my vote on him, LIKE I said there is also no roleblocker. If there was  one, wonk would have got blocked. No ninja either otherwise radish couldn't have followed wiibox. Following wiibox was also a very weird decision (which paid off, well done radish).

If there is anything else you want to ask, ask away.



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supermario128 said:

Mantle is who I would be voting for today, if I were to vote. The way he defended Wiibox yesterday just seemed weird. He didn't out right say he was defending him and he even denied it, but trying to shift the attention to me and bringing up the point that he didn't want to mislynch seemed off. He even went as far as to vote for Radish. Like I already said, it was a win win situation for us. If Radish was lying we would have lynched him today and we only lost a vanilla. If he was telling the truth we lynch a mafia and keep our tracker. Only mafia would miss something as obvious and simple as that. He is our best option at the moment unless Radish saw anything.


Hmm.....

Please show me where I said the bolded?



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mantlepiecek said:

Between radish and wiibox, I am inclining towards radish being the scum. I will be honest. At this point we have to be careful enough so ultimately it will be upto you guys to decide who is scum or not.

Quoting myself. Everyone missed this.



okay, Stef didn't send me a PM telling me my results, which is odd - maybe there's a "tracker resistant" mafia too?



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radishhead said:
okay, Stef didn't send me a PM telling me my results, which is odd - maybe there's a "tracker resistant" mafia too?

He should have still sent something. It's probably a mistake on his part or are you x-shot or something?



Actually, don't answer the x-shot question. Just a possibility.



Yeah, I'm going to wait to see if he sends anything - I won't have internet access for about 10 hours, so I'll be back then



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