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Linkzmax said:
NotStan said:
pezus said:

NotStan, what do you think of prof?

What I think? I think his posts the first day were quite random, that no lynch vote still haunts me, I can't believe he would actually risk the whole town loosing their powers just for the sake of outing scum, just seems like a very weak excuse that he came up with afterwards. In terms of suspects, he would be somewhere near the top, but it's usually the lurkers/active lurkers that are scum, not being inactive enough to warrant a modkill, but not contributing enough to actually attract attention/questioning to themselves.

Provided that the Wonk's and Radish's roleclaims hold, I am now aware of 5 townies, with 8 left in the mix otherwise it's easier for me to make a decision on whom to vote for today. Not going to lie, your interaction with c03n seems weird, as if he's coaching you, and the jokes as well.. Usually that sort of thing is noted for longer game, so if either of you flip scum, you can guess my response.

I was hoping Noctis was going to flip scum, that turned out to be not the case, and with another townie dead tonight we really need a solid connection before making assumptions in terms of whom to lynch today. And so far I haven't really seen anything to convince me to vote for anyone, other than the blunder prof has done yesterday.

 

What claim of radish's? And why are you counting dead players, one of which isn't confirmed town, in your total?

As for your third paragraph. Why so dramatic about the upcoming nightkill?

 

Didn't he effectively claim a pro town impulsive janitor? Or have I read something wrong? FF was a night kill. In a game of 13 people, 3 people are likely to be scum, we already had one vanilla lynched, and I am another vanilla, hence why I think that FF actually had a power role rather than just plain vanilla, although it probably wouldn't make much difference now, I am interested to see what role he held, just a personal interest thing really.

I like your suspicion of me linkz, keep it going. Would love to see what argument you're going to bring forward.



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theprof00 said:

1. Why did you say "FF's flip seems to be hidden"? Are you completely unaware of the janitor discussion? Hmmm, I would think that mafia with a few head between them would have discussed any possible janitor thoroughly, so that could rule you out. However, I would think that all townies also at least understood what was going on. So the question is, are you pretending not to be aware or are you actually unaware?

2. You said that I risked townies losing their roles for a trap. Why did you not consider that I already lost townies their roles by claiming? You also mentioned that I was a possible third party. Why did you not consider me to have lost the town its roles? You didn't even acknowledge that if I was mafia I'd be losing the mafia their roles. Why is it that you neither mentioned me losing mafia roles nor town roles on my own merit, and consider me third party. Why does it seem like you KNOW I'm not mafia?

3. "Coaching" in game, is something that happens by either town or mafia, you should know that. Last game, there was literally tons of coaching by the town towards the mafia. Mafia were constantly trying to lynch confirmed townies and town would just slap them on the wrist and say "no, it would be better if we did X instead".

1. I saw the janitor discussion, but taking into account that the lynch was also hidden that means janitor had two choices that day or what? It confused the hell out of me, hence the question as to whether it was an actual janitor or it's just the case of a blind game?

2. Because it doesn't make sense for you to risk an entire set of roles just because you wanted to troll the other team, that would mean that it would be in YOUR best interest to loose the ability or whatever and it won't have an effect on several people (like in a case of scum and townies), most likely just yourself. That was my suspicion at the time, however if a clueless townie or scum fall for it then you will benefit from it greatly as they'll go a night without using their powers. To this day, I still think you have an anti town agenda in mind.

3. Yes that's true but in some cases coaching occurred between the same teammates, after all the jokes etc can be interconnected, a few games ago I've made a joke with a fellow scummate on the first page, that joke got us into a lot of shit in the end, I think same thing can happen anytime, and with people like Pezus who are relatively new to the mafia game, they can sometimes slip and pretty much connect themselves to their scummates.



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NotStan said:

2. Because it doesn't make sense for you to risk an entire set of roles just because you wanted to troll the other team, that would mean that it would be in YOUR best interest to loose the ability or whatever and it won't have an effect on several people (like in a case of scum and townies), most likely just yourself. That was my suspicion at the time, however if a clueless townie or scum fall for it then you will benefit from it greatly as they'll go a night without using their powers. To this day, I still think you have an anti town agenda in mind.


2. That's not what I was asking. But whatever, not a big deal.



theprof00 said:
NotStan said:

2. Because it doesn't make sense for you to risk an entire set of roles just because you wanted to troll the other team, that would mean that it would be in YOUR best interest to loose the ability or whatever and it won't have an effect on several people (like in a case of scum and townies), most likely just yourself. That was my suspicion at the time, however if a clueless townie or scum fall for it then you will benefit from it greatly as they'll go a night without using their powers. To this day, I still think you have an anti town agenda in mind.


2. That's not what I was asking. But whatever, not a big deal.

Well, I thought it more or less answered the question, guess I interpreted the question wrong!



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Oh I misunderstood my role - I have no information that I can give you guys, sorry

Back to scumhunting, I guess- pretend I didn't say anything.

I guess I can at least gauge how people reacted to my "claim": Linkz is definitely looking scummy to me, since he took on the role of the overly-angry/concerned townie too seriously.
Has Soleron responded back to the mod poke? I don't want to waste a lynch on him (I have a feeling that he's a vanilla townie)



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I can't be the first to get tracker and watcher mixed up- don't be too critical of me



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radishhead said:
I can't be the first to get tracker and watcher mixed up- don't be too critical of me

Yeah you're not a watcher or a tracker. I guess I should be flattered that you're taking after me, but try not to gambit so much, you're not very good at it. Although it's a nice attempt.



spurgeonryan said:
Because obviously you said that you did something but was going to keep it to yourself until tomorrow Radish. Now you say that you have no information to give us as if you did not do anything at all.

Then you say you got confused whether or not you are a tracker or a watcher.

Time to spill the beans if you actually watched or tracked someone Radish. Because that sounds like one big fat lie that you did not need to tell anyone. Maybe you were worried you would be lynched so you made up some crazy role and then took it back for some reason? The only good thing that you did was not actually claim which role you are. Because Town is just waiting for you to do so. So that we can confirm the lie. Show us that you have what it takes Radish. Tell us what you are. You basically already did anyways, if you ...lulz...are who you say you think that you are.

He obviously was going to try one of my moves, one of the "so X, what were you doing at FF's last night", but appears to have chickened out.

I'm more concerned why you would want to vote for him or pressure him for any reason.

Your vote was better on me where at least some kind of logic (albeit wrong) existed.



pezus said:
radishhead said:
I can't be the first to get tracker and watcher mixed up- don't be too critical of me

Since you now effectively roleclaimed, why did you say FF dying was interesting?

Because I thought I was a watcher (ie. nobody visited Final Fan last night, therefore I'm a vigilante), but in reality, all I know is that Final Fan visited nobody last night

Vote: Spurge

Clearly trying to capitalise as much as possible on this error, and his reasoning clearly shows that he's trying to rush a mislynch as quick as possible. "Maybe you were worried that you would be lynched..." - why would I be worried when I was not suspected in any way during day 1? heck, after I made my "claim" today, people trusted me- it was only because I realised my mistake and didn't want it backfiring on me later that I risked taking some abuse in admitting my mistake. 



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Well then.

I wanted to give him the opportunity to stay quiet, but it appears he felt the need to explain himself.