Just got back. So we got a mislynch, that's disappointing. If anyone noctis was the one that has reeked the most of scum, so I guess need to be more reserved from now. FF certainly seems like a random choice for a night kill, what's even more annoying his role has been hidden. What I don't get is there were only 13 players, yet there are vanillas in game. Of course it would be interesting to see what role FF had, but unfortunately with the blind flips it's impossible to do so, but Wonk I think you should see what role FF had tonight.

Really disappointed in Noctis, he has made so many roleclaims that by the end - when he claimed vanilla I didn't really believe him, other than that nothing really worth noting has occurred in the past day :|.

So what's the general consensus? We're playing a blind game or mafia has a really powerful janitor?

^I have been doing a lot of research trying to learn the mafia rules. I can't seem to find anywhere that a janitor can clean up multiple kills in the same day/night. So I am going with a blind game. Thought this seems to confirm that there is a coroner. So I am tending to believe that Wonk was telling the truth about his role.

Even though Noctis seemed like he was trying to get himself lynched since he was busy playing another mafia game and made us waist a lynch, at least he was vanilla. This at least prevented us from accidentally lynching a townie with a role on the first day.

I think I'm going to wait until tomorrow to declare why I think it's interesting, unless there's significant pressure for me to say otherwise. The reasons for this being that there are probably role manipulators in this round, and I don't want to say anything until I can be sure of what I'm going to say, or until I have enough information to provide us with a mafia lynch. If that sentence doesn't make any sense to you, it's because I'm trying to make it as clear as I can without revealing any information that would render myself a risk of a night 2 death.

Linkz brought up earlier that I was a third party that was lynched day one. The people who pushed for my lynch were Hatmoza and his mafia cronies. They later said that survivor is an anti-town role, which it isn't. I don't like when people try to portray third parties (aside from cereal killers :D) as being good lynch targets. I especially don't like players who hunt for third parties, because a mafia's natural targets are third parties. Ie, it helps mafia act like they're scumhunting.

I wasn't saying noc wasn't scum, just that you're possibly both scum.

However, I felt a bit uneasy after his claim. The wording of his claim threw me off a bit, specifically where he says bomb and governor. His full post was "unlynchable, jester, bomb, governor". UL and Jester had previously been suggested by someone, so I felt those were just added in to his post. Bomb and governor, made me think he was both, a supersaint, which is a town role. I wanted to give him a couple days in the case he was telling the truth because noc tends to have great instinct about people (first game scanned two scum as cop, next game vig'd a scum, next game led me to inquire about two players who turned up scum). Not trying to earn townie points, trying to save a potentially good role for later in the game.

Anyone have any strong ideas about who might be mafia. All I have seen today is a whole lot of nothing. Linkz is still the most suspicious to me, he seems to be playing the role of the detective well, but it seems like a ploy to get us off his sent.

I know you already, sort of, explained this post. However, something about it seems off to me. Almost like you know something we don't. Did you kill FF yourself, Radish? If you really can't talk about it any further then I will patiently wait.

@Linkz
If I die then all the other janitored kills/ lynches will also be revealed.

Oh right- just to calm some questions, I don't have a killing role in any form

I hope you realise that I explained why I said that - I said the "that's interesting" to sound all dramatic and get loads of people to ask me "Why?!" - I was hoping for a moment in the spotlight, what's wrong with that?

The big question is whether it's your vote that janitors lynches.

If the above is true, then assuming town, your role basically relegates you to not being killed at night (since mafia would prefer people be left in the dark), not being lynched (as town don't want to lynch a townie), and not voting (as we want to know what people flip). So you'd basically be a tree stump, except counted in the need to lynch number. As for getting as much info as possible, we will be able to keep up with wonk's digging as long as you don't vote, except possibly in the later days when your vote may become necessary. I'd say for at least a day you should stay off the voting just to test. Possibly you can vote and then unvote.

Wait, were you already informed that you were a compulsive janitor who would janitor all kills?