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Wonktonodi said:

What conclusion did I jump to?

There was no coroner in that round though, just all night kills janitored until the janitor died then they all flipped.

You only listed two possible options, so I was merely listing a third option that was more likely.

True, but who is to say it couldn't be the same thing this round? The only difference is we have a coroner as opposed to flips after the janitor dies.




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The coroner claim is pretty convenient, but I'm not going to theorize that he's in fact not a coroner.
Also as an aside, there are different kinds of coroners iirc, depending on the mod.

One is that the coroner has to pick the person being janitored, the other is that he unveils automatically, and the other is that he investigates someone who has previously died. I could be wrong about those things, but I'm pretty confident in that.

So, being as it is, I'm willing to give him a few nights. If he is indeed a coroner, he's a likely kill target, and with doc protection could confirm him somewhat. Additionally, if he's one of these variable roles as opposed to the auto coroner, then we might see a janitor happen tonight, which could validate him somewhat.

I'll not that I don't actually find him that suspicious, just that there are other options beside coroner being a mafia safeclaim.



Linkzmax said:

Why wouldn't scum lie about being a coroner? We considered doing it ourselves in hat's game, did we not?

Maybe the janitored deaths don't flip with the death of the janitor this round. That would make the coroner role not only believable, but very necessary.




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pezus said:
supermario128 said:
Wonktonodi said:

I'm the corener, so scum may have a janitor or stefl may not reveal lynches. Whatever the case may be I'd rather not lose my power from a townie being stupid.

You shouldn't jump to conclusions. It is very likely that we may have a passive janitor amongst ourselves. Think back to Hatz game with Pac Man. As far as your role claim goes, I am inclined to believe it and as far as I'm concerned this 99% confirms you as town. There is no way scum would lie about being a corener or for that role to be anything other than pro town.

Why, exactly? According to the wiki, the host decides how the coroners results are revealed, so they might not be publically revealed. That makes it easy to make stuff up. The wiki also says coroner is "generally" pro-town

So that means that the results might only be revealed to the coroner only?



Linkzmax said:

Me: How could I know I'm the pilot of an EG-X if I didn't read my PM?!? Weird that you have the same general thoughts as me, yet think I'm scum going after easy lynches.(LOL @ prof being an easy lynch) Are you excused because you're just being quieter?

j0: So you're suspcious of spurge, and find it odd that he(j0) seemed to be coaching spurge, yet you think he's pro town? Could you explain that better.


Very good point, but why did you even bring up the point about the possibility of not reading your PM in the first place? I realize you said you did, but there were others who thought you might not have as well. You are fully capable of "making sense" as mafia. I just have a feeling about you. (Yes, I know that isn't very convincing) I'm not excused of anything, but I had a reason for not posting since I was out of state Sunday night and almost all of Monday.

I am leaning towards pro town for Spurge (only slightly), so it wouldn't make sense for mafia to help out a town player when they could sit back and watch him dig a deeper hole.




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Linkzmax said:

I see two things wrong with your behavior. Announcing a change in-game more often comes from scum than town. You may have mentioned something in the post-game after last round, and if so I will retract that point.

As someone trying to improve their play, doing something that is less likely to get you lynched is a good thing. That alone would be a horrible metric to judge your alignment.

Like I already said, if I didn't mention it directly I meant to. It should have been obvious that I was going to play more serious this round. I'm pretty sure I did mention it somewhere though.

Yet, you said you would possibly lynch me because I was being more serious?




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pezus said:
And just the fact that it is a possibility, and not absolutely out of the question, means that scum would lie about being a coroner.


But why would scum want to bring that much attention to them and spawn this debate? It almost makes me less suspect of him. But I will keep watching.

 



pezus said:
radish was online recently...where is he?


This is the same thing I am wondering about Spurge. He is online all of the time, but has barely psot here in the last day.



spurgeonryan said:
I am not on my Mother Fucking Kindle! I am on my PoS phone.

PoS: Pezus.


Here this is where I figured it out.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Janitor

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Coroner



spurgeonryan said:
It is a pain to change sites and do anything with it. Damn you. But since it is such a secret that you cannot give me the gist of it I will be sure to spend the next hour digging it up.


Here is the jist:

"The Janitor is an anti-Town role who "cleans up the body" after its kill, thus preventing players from learning anything about the player when they flip. At daybreak, it is simply said that the player died with no information about their role or their alignment."

"A Coroner is a role that can target a dead player to discern information about them. The typical function of a Coroner is such that they learn the full-reveal flip of the player in a limited- or No Reveal game. If a game is not advertised as having anything other than full role reveals, a Coroner probably implies the existence of a Janitor. Coroners are generally Town-aligned."