Mr Khan said:
richardhutnik said:
Kasz216 said:
Chris Hu said:
Its better to give money with a open heart anyway. Most conservatives give money out of guilt.
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Actually, research tends to point the other way.... Marketing is more effective on liberals when it focuses on the suffering people are going through. While it works better on republicans when it focuses on a communal duty to do right by your community.
Although this may be due to a ceiling effect because religious people in general do give more. Religious correlating of course with conservative.
You wouldn't have access to scientific journals would you?
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What you just stated sounds like what he said, in description of conservatives. Appealing to communal duty is an appeal to guilt. It is focused on the individual to do what is right and personal responsibility to do this. The liberal view would be on the person being helped and trying to help them any way they can, even if it involves raising taxes. And this would make a lot of sense explaining how political talk is structured and what is said in it. The conservative view is, "Who really cares?" and a focus on what the giver does, because it is about what people do on a personal level. This individualistic view will also cause things not to be viewed systemically, and asking, what can be done to address systemic issues. Today, viewing poverty as a systemic issue, and not one of personal responsibility, is a liberal approach.
This being said, who said there it is wrong to appeal to guilt if it gets people to do the right thing? Moral conduct has guilt as part of it. Guilt is a factor to drive people to think differently on things.
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This is an interesting viewpoint, as it could suggest that Conservatives operate on motive-based morality and Liberals operate on ends-based morality.
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I am going to trust what Kas said is correct regarding the research. If that is the case, then it does explain a lot. It makes sense to me, because modern conservatism, at its core, has roots in classic liberalism and the individual elevated. It also borrows from the tradition of religion, and collective responsibilities. This contrasts with modern liberalism, which ends up getting elements of Marxism and egalitarianism in it, but also desires that people find their own personal values in life. End result, assume that what I said is in the ballpark, you will have modern liberals and conservates going at it in forums like this, and the each thinking the other side is completely and utterly daft and stupid, as they keep yelling louder and louder at each other for missing what they see as the obvious.
What you wrote above is a way to look at it, coming from the desired ideals that Liberals and Conservatives have now, which are different. There is WAY too much to go into here, risking being wrong if it is discussed. I will say that, so long as the views remained locked and people don't see the other side, there is little hope of reaching common ground, and politics will remain a battlefield of a clash of wills, rather than reaching consensus on anything.