Americans don't think about the consequences of illegal immigration and an insecure border outside of "I don't want to look racist", so this will be a great move in fueling more illegals which will further fund the cartels who control the border and let them continue the bloody civil war throughout Mexico (and eventually the south west Unites States).

I am mostly in agreement with Kasz on the broader issue. Obviously illegal immigration needs to be checked, and i never understood why the boarder wasn't yet more secure than it already is. I just dislike some of the methods that seem to be proposed for dealing with the problem (like citizen border patrol militias, yikes).

Because politicians are only interested in courting the growing latino vote. And to come out as tough on border security would be detrimental to that. 

I think a tough but fair system that didn't seem like it was founded in anti-Latino racism (which so many current harsher immigration bills have undertones of) would be received well enough, especially if Latinos knew it would mean they would actually get something resembling an American standard of living by coming to America, due to cleaning out the undermarket that thrives by exploiting their illegal status.

Well... Latino/Big buisness/Construction/Rich-Middle class looking for cleaning services etc vote.

Then there goes the cheap labor, which hurts businesses. Businesses who fund campaigns and who polticians invest in. Politicians won't crackdown on illegal immigration because its good for them, one way or another. 

Basically here's a list of who suffers with rampant illegal immigration

1. Americans
2.Mexicans
3. The illegals themselves

And here's who benefits

1.Politicians who exploit them
2.Businesses who exploit them

Oh yeah... and I forgot one other thought.

Which is... "Another promise broken."

He promised he WOULDN'T use executive orders or powers for immigration issues.

The drug problem could be dealt with by dealing with the drug problem. By ending the war on drugs, the violence in Mexico (and, eventually SW USA) would vastly reduced, perhaps to the point of elimination.

The immigration problem could be easily separated from the drug problem.

I wonder if that's so.

The thing about drugs is... they're REALLY fucking cheap.  That's why we can't keep them out.  If you get one pound of cocaine through for every 1,000 you lose you make a profit. (or something crazy like that.)

So either most drugs would be STUPIDLY cheap, or would be taxed up to near current levels and allow drug dealers to undercut legitamite buisness.

Afterall there are pretty big black market cigarrette rings based around the taxes western companies have.

I think the war on drugs should be ended, so people can make their own choices with there body.... but I question whether it would really solve all the drug issues.