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Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:

Mista Yoshida san basically confirmed PS4 being more powerful then WiiU by replying to the asker with "dream on", ofcourse PS4 exists, behind the scenes, in secret Sony labs isolated from this universe.

Until it gets formally announced by Sony, it doesn't.  Tech for the next Sony console is definitely in the works.  But Sony hasn't announced this mythical "Playstation 4" you speak about.  But hey, maybe it will join the shelves of the XBox 720 and Wii 2 that people were talking about.

 

Sony also said "we were never the first, never the cheapest" last week, basically confirming PS4 will be a graphical powerhouse. Btw, Like that other dude said, a 350 dollar PS4 would be probably more powerful then a WiiU at the same price, since most of the cost will go to the tablet controller, compromising on the graphics department.

So, we start off with talking about consoles that don't exist, being more powerful than a console that does exist.  Next, we start giving prices to a console that hasn't been given a price point yet, and then naming this console that doesn't exist yet the same price, so we than can declare victory in a battle that hasn't started, so that we can score points on a fictional scoreboard, that is only in the minds of people who are console partisans/fanboys.

Well, if we are going to go complete speculation and posturing for partisan points, I will tell you that the Atari 2600 is more powerful.  And it under $50... isn't that nice?  

And I will call it now, the next Sony system will NOT have a "real hit joystick to control the screen"!  Atari 2600 1, next Sony home console 0!

Yes, its not even speculation anymore, since a Sony exec confirmed it to be more powerful, therefore we can assume itll be more powerful.

Only thing for confirmation here, if that, is that Sony exec confirmed the next console name with be... Playstation 4.  No guarantee it is that.  As of now, it doesn't exist, but is being developed under R&D. Until it is released, or showned, nothing is known about it. 

And no, you won't get Kaz saying anything about the next Sony console.  He doesn't want anything to get out about it now, or he would of spoke on it.



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richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:

Mista Yoshida san basically confirmed PS4 being more powerful then WiiU by replying to the asker with "dream on", ofcourse PS4 exists, behind the scenes, in secret Sony labs isolated from this universe.

Until it gets formally announced by Sony, it doesn't.  Tech for the next Sony console is definitely in the works.  But Sony hasn't announced this mythical "Playstation 4" you speak about.  But hey, maybe it will join the shelves of the XBox 720 and Wii 2 that people were talking about.

 

Sony also said "we were never the first, never the cheapest" last week, basically confirming PS4 will be a graphical powerhouse. Btw, Like that other dude said, a 350 dollar PS4 would be probably more powerful then a WiiU at the same price, since most of the cost will go to the tablet controller, compromising on the graphics department.

So, we start off with talking about consoles that don't exist, being more powerful than a console that does exist.  Next, we start giving prices to a console that hasn't been given a price point yet, and then naming this console that doesn't exist yet the same price, so we than can declare victory in a battle that hasn't started, so that we can score points on a fictional scoreboard, that is only in the minds of people who are console partisans/fanboys.

Well, if we are going to go complete speculation and posturing for partisan points, I will tell you that the Atari 2600 is more powerful.  And it under $50... isn't that nice?  

And I will call it now, the next Sony system will NOT have a "real hit joystick to control the screen"!  Atari 2600 1, next Sony home console 0!

Yes, its not even speculation anymore, since a Sony exec confirmed it to be more powerful, therefore we can assume itll be more powerful.

Only thing for confirmation here, if that, is that Sony exec confirmed the next console name with be... Playstation 4.  No guarantee it is that.  As of now, it doesn't exist, but is being developed under R&D. Until it is released, or showned, nothing is known about it. 

And no, you won't get Kaz saying anything about the next Sony console.  He doesn't want anything to get out about it now, or he would of spoke on it.


Actually, the name is not confirmed at all, what is confirmed is that itll be more powerful. The name could be anything, I like PlayStation Orbis. PS4 is unlikely in Japan as 4 is a bad number there.



Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:

Mista Yoshida san basically confirmed PS4 being more powerful then WiiU by replying to the asker with "dream on", ofcourse PS4 exists, behind the scenes, in secret Sony labs isolated from this universe.

Until it gets formally announced by Sony, it doesn't.  Tech for the next Sony console is definitely in the works.  But Sony hasn't announced this mythical "Playstation 4" you speak about.  But hey, maybe it will join the shelves of the XBox 720 and Wii 2 that people were talking about.

 

Sony also said "we were never the first, never the cheapest" last week, basically confirming PS4 will be a graphical powerhouse. Btw, Like that other dude said, a 350 dollar PS4 would be probably more powerful then a WiiU at the same price, since most of the cost will go to the tablet controller, compromising on the graphics department.

So, we start off with talking about consoles that don't exist, being more powerful than a console that does exist.  Next, we start giving prices to a console that hasn't been given a price point yet, and then naming this console that doesn't exist yet the same price, so we than can declare victory in a battle that hasn't started, so that we can score points on a fictional scoreboard, that is only in the minds of people who are console partisans/fanboys.

Well, if we are going to go complete speculation and posturing for partisan points, I will tell you that the Atari 2600 is more powerful.  And it under $50... isn't that nice?  

And I will call it now, the next Sony system will NOT have a "real hit joystick to control the screen"!  Atari 2600 1, next Sony home console 0!

Yes, its not even speculation anymore, since a Sony exec confirmed it to be more powerful, therefore we can assume itll be more powerful.

Only thing for confirmation here, if that, is that Sony exec confirmed the next console name with be... Playstation 4.  No guarantee it is that.  As of now, it doesn't exist, but is being developed under R&D. Until it is released, or showned, nothing is known about it. 

And no, you won't get Kaz saying anything about the next Sony console.  He doesn't want anything to get out about it now, or he would of spoke on it.


Actually, the name is not confirmed at all, what is confirmed is that itll be more powerful. The name could be anything, I like PlayStation Orbis. PS4 is unlikely in Japan as 4 is a bad number there.

The thing is that the Twitter was in response to someone makin a comment that the PS4 was less powerful than Wii U.   So, the discussion became PS4 vs WiiU, eventhough there is no PS4 out there at all for this.  Now, if the discussion were Orbis (the codename for the project) vs WiiU, then yes, the Orbis should be more powerful than the WiiU.  Question is whether or not this power will be sufficiently noticable to get people to get it instead of a WiiU.  We could be hitting a spot where such returns won't be sufficient to make a difference.  As of now, on the portable front, the Vita is more powerful than the 3DS, but the 3DS is dominating it, because of price first and foremost.

Thing here is you can't do the level of speculating you had.  It is WAY too presumptive.  We don't know the price of the Wii U, and certainly don't know what the next Playstation console will be or the price it will launch at.  Also, if people grow used to the second screen and like it better than now, then Sony will have problems.



richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:

Mista Yoshida san basically confirmed PS4 being more powerful then WiiU by replying to the asker with "dream on", ofcourse PS4 exists, behind the scenes, in secret Sony labs isolated from this universe.

Until it gets formally announced by Sony, it doesn't.  Tech for the next Sony console is definitely in the works.  But Sony hasn't announced this mythical "Playstation 4" you speak about.  But hey, maybe it will join the shelves of the XBox 720 and Wii 2 that people were talking about.

 

Sony also said "we were never the first, never the cheapest" last week, basically confirming PS4 will be a graphical powerhouse. Btw, Like that other dude said, a 350 dollar PS4 would be probably more powerful then a WiiU at the same price, since most of the cost will go to the tablet controller, compromising on the graphics department.

So, we start off with talking about consoles that don't exist, being more powerful than a console that does exist.  Next, we start giving prices to a console that hasn't been given a price point yet, and then naming this console that doesn't exist yet the same price, so we than can declare victory in a battle that hasn't started, so that we can score points on a fictional scoreboard, that is only in the minds of people who are console partisans/fanboys.

Well, if we are going to go complete speculation and posturing for partisan points, I will tell you that the Atari 2600 is more powerful.  And it under $50... isn't that nice?  

And I will call it now, the next Sony system will NOT have a "real hit joystick to control the screen"!  Atari 2600 1, next Sony home console 0!

Yes, its not even speculation anymore, since a Sony exec confirmed it to be more powerful, therefore we can assume itll be more powerful.

Only thing for confirmation here, if that, is that Sony exec confirmed the next console name with be... Playstation 4.  No guarantee it is that.  As of now, it doesn't exist, but is being developed under R&D. Until it is released, or showned, nothing is known about it. 

And no, you won't get Kaz saying anything about the next Sony console.  He doesn't want anything to get out about it now, or he would of spoke on it.


Actually, the name is not confirmed at all, what is confirmed is that itll be more powerful. The name could be anything, I like PlayStation Orbis. PS4 is unlikely in Japan as 4 is a bad number there.

The thing is that the Twitter was in response to someone makin a comment that the PS4 was less powerful than Wii U.   So, the discussion became PS4 vs WiiU, eventhough there is no PS4 out there at all for this.  Now, if the discussion were Orbis (the codename for the project) vs WiiU, then yes, the Orbis should be more powerful than the WiiU.  Question is whether or not this power will be sufficiently noticable to get people to get it instead of a WiiU.  We could be hitting a spot where such returns won't be sufficient to make a difference.  As of now, on the portable front, the Vita is more powerful than the 3DS, but the 3DS is dominating it, because of price first and foremost.

Thing here is you can't do the level of speculating you had.  It is WAY too presumptive.  We don't know the price of the Wii U, and certainly don't know what the next Playstation console will be or the price it will launch at.  Also, if people grow used to the second screen and like it better than now, then Sony will have problems.


I agree.



Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:

Thing here is you can't do the level of speculating you had.  It is WAY too presumptive.  We don't know the price of the Wii U, and certainly don't know what the next Playstation console will be or the price it will launch at.  Also, if people grow used to the second screen and like it better than now, then Sony will have problems.


I agree.

I personally try to avoid prediction business, because no one gives me even a cookie if I am right on the Internet, and doesn't pay me to be as wrong as Pachter is.  So, I try to avoid it.  All you do is look bad.  Of course, there is a perverse one where you predict the worse and take comfort in knowing you were right about worst case scenarios.  I still find that means you end up with a a pile of sux in the end.



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richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:

Thing here is you can't do the level of speculating you had.  It is WAY too presumptive.  We don't know the price of the Wii U, and certainly don't know what the next Playstation console will be or the price it will launch at.  Also, if people grow used to the second screen and like it better than now, then Sony will have problems.


I agree.

I personally try to avoid prediction business, because no one gives me even a cookie if I am right on the Internet, and doesn't pay me to be as wrong as Pachter is.  So, I try to avoid it.  All you do is look bad.  Of course, there is a perverse one where you predict the worse and take comfort in knowing you were right about worst case scenarios.  I still find that means you end up with a a pile of sux in the end.


I agree man, I want to become a tactical forecaster, sometimes the things that seems to be the most logical just doesn't happen.



why would anyone think the wii-u will be more powerful then the ps4 when the wii-u isn't even all the powerful.



Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
deskpro2k3 said:
honestly I think the Wii U caught up to this gen.


that made me LOL

Laugh like a baby...

 

it means that the player is the baby , and the PS3 is responsible for his emotional development.

see the laughing , the crying and all the emotions , the ps3 has the role of a mother for the player .

now that explains a lot.... you just answered question i have been asking myself about playstation fans since the dreamcast demise.... thank you my friend....

ooooh snap sorry it was too good to not jump both feet in... my appologies...



endimion said:
Turkish said:
richardhutnik said:
Turkish said:
deskpro2k3 said:
honestly I think the Wii U caught up to this gen.


that made me LOL

Laugh like a baby...

 

it means that the player is the baby , and the PS3 is responsible for his emotional development.

see the laughing , the crying and all the emotions , the ps3 has the role of a mother for the player .

now that explains a lot.... you just answered question i have been asking myself about playstation fans since the dreamcast demise.... thank you my friend....

ooooh snap sorry it was too good to not jump both feet in... my appologies...


????



Carl2291 said:
He can dream that Sony lasts long enough to release PS4 ..


Oh so is Nintendo turning a profit?