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noname2200 said:
oniyide said:


However if it is possible to hook up an external HDD and use ALL the data from the WIi U to there (not that music and movie file crap that PS3 has) then that would be the best and disregard the last paragraph

It is my understanding that that is the case.


It is my understanding that it might not be, we dont have the information that says it will be the case, I hope it is. But it could just be like PS3 where you could do the same thing but you are limited in what could be saved.  This is Ninty so im expecting the worst in this regard...but hoping for the best.



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Not a huge issue for me, I have a 300GB drive with about 90GB free, so as long as I can use that, I should be fine. However, it isn't going to win Nintendo any fans among 'core' gamers, or indeed third parties for that matter who want to be selling DLC. There should be a hard drive in there, really.



greenmedic88 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
how Expensive are HDD's really these days for big companies like Nintendo.. COME ON!

Wont memory cards make it easier for hackers though?

what disks does the WiiU take? do you have to instal the games?

HDDs are currently the most expensive single component in any console being produced. 

While I'm not one to praise Nintendo's hardware for any other reasons than characteristic "Nintendo durability" and the company's ability to use mature, lower priced technology to create hardware that is greater than its sum of parts (at a profit), from a business perspective, going with internal flash memory standard is good business. 

NAND flash memory in low quanties is cheap. Minimum size HDDs are still pricey components. 8GB of NAND memory is well under $10. The lowest capacity HDD currently being produced costs many times more.  

As long as Nintendo allows for the use of any USB based external HDD (no mandatory proprietary specially formatted "Nintendo brand" HDDs) to expand storage for game downloads and the like, what it means is a lower standard price for the console without additional cost for budget minded consumers who in all likelihood already have a USB HDD. 

Installs will be an issue with developers though as the base 8GB internal memory essentially eliminates the practicality of mandatory installs. It will likely be the same issue developers had with the Xbox 360, and were forced to work around. 


So what? So remove the HDD and now "THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IS THE GPU, NINTENDO SHOULD DITCH THAT!!!!" 8GB of memory is pitful, short-sighted, and I might even add arrogant. "Well if people want storage, do it themselves. We are Nintendo, screw digital distribution even though we are in dead last when it comes to online gaming" USB HDD's are slow, and a PITA. Why do I want a freaking external hard drive plugged into my console?



Indeed have a 2TB drive sitting here, unused.

This also allows Nintendo to simply increase storage space down the line, or perhaps they would go so far as to offer a "Pro" model to go along with their Pro controller.



VetteDude said:
greenmedic88 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
how Expensive are HDD's really these days for big companies like Nintendo.. COME ON!

Wont memory cards make it easier for hackers though?

what disks does the WiiU take? do you have to instal the games?

HDDs are currently the most expensive single component in any console being produced. 

While I'm not one to praise Nintendo's hardware for any other reasons than characteristic "Nintendo durability" and the company's ability to use mature, lower priced technology to create hardware that is greater than its sum of parts (at a profit), from a business perspective, going with internal flash memory standard is good business. 

NAND flash memory in low quanties is cheap. Minimum size HDDs are still pricey components. 8GB of NAND memory is well under $10. The lowest capacity HDD currently being produced costs many times more.  

As long as Nintendo allows for the use of any USB based external HDD (no mandatory proprietary specially formatted "Nintendo brand" HDDs) to expand storage for game downloads and the like, what it means is a lower standard price for the console without additional cost for budget minded consumers who in all likelihood already have a USB HDD. 

Installs will be an issue with developers though as the base 8GB internal memory essentially eliminates the practicality of mandatory installs. It will likely be the same issue developers had with the Xbox 360, and were forced to work around. 


So what? So remove the HDD and now "THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IS THE GPU, NINTENDO SHOULD DITCH THAT!!!!" 8GB of memory is pitful, short-sighted, and I might even add arrogant. "Well if people want storage, do it themselves. We are Nintendo, screw digital distribution even though we are in dead last when it comes to online gaming" USB HDD's are slow, and a PITA. Why do I want a freaking external hard drive plugged into my console?


No desire for USB HD? Super, throw in a fast flash memory card, it may support 64gb, but its a patch away from supporting SDXC (2TB limit on those)



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jlrx said:
VetteDude said:
greenmedic88 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
how Expensive are HDD's really these days for big companies like Nintendo.. COME ON!

Wont memory cards make it easier for hackers though?

what disks does the WiiU take? do you have to instal the games?

HDDs are currently the most expensive single component in any console being produced. 

While I'm not one to praise Nintendo's hardware for any other reasons than characteristic "Nintendo durability" and the company's ability to use mature, lower priced technology to create hardware that is greater than its sum of parts (at a profit), from a business perspective, going with internal flash memory standard is good business. 

NAND flash memory in low quanties is cheap. Minimum size HDDs are still pricey components. 8GB of NAND memory is well under $10. The lowest capacity HDD currently being produced costs many times more.  

As long as Nintendo allows for the use of any USB based external HDD (no mandatory proprietary specially formatted "Nintendo brand" HDDs) to expand storage for game downloads and the like, what it means is a lower standard price for the console without additional cost for budget minded consumers who in all likelihood already have a USB HDD. 

Installs will be an issue with developers though as the base 8GB internal memory essentially eliminates the practicality of mandatory installs. It will likely be the same issue developers had with the Xbox 360, and were forced to work around. 


So what? So remove the HDD and now "THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IS THE GPU, NINTENDO SHOULD DITCH THAT!!!!" 8GB of memory is pitful, short-sighted, and I might even add arrogant. "Well if people want storage, do it themselves. We are Nintendo, screw digital distribution even though we are in dead last when it comes to online gaming" USB HDD's are slow, and a PITA. Why do I want a freaking external hard drive plugged into my console?


No desire for USB HD? Super, throw in a fast flash memory card, it may support 64gb, but its a patch away from supporting SDXC (2TB limit on those)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K0977139

 

$50 for 64GB SD card that is still slow. I paid $50 for a 250GB HDD for my PS3. And this is only 64GB of memory..... SD cards CANNOT replace Hard Drives.



VetteDude said:
jlrx said:
VetteDude said:
greenmedic88 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
how Expensive are HDD's really these days for big companies like Nintendo.. COME ON!

Wont memory cards make it easier for hackers though?

what disks does the WiiU take? do you have to instal the games?

HDDs are currently the most expensive single component in any console being produced. 

While I'm not one to praise Nintendo's hardware for any other reasons than characteristic "Nintendo durability" and the company's ability to use mature, lower priced technology to create hardware that is greater than its sum of parts (at a profit), from a business perspective, going with internal flash memory standard is good business. 

NAND flash memory in low quanties is cheap. Minimum size HDDs are still pricey components. 8GB of NAND memory is well under $10. The lowest capacity HDD currently being produced costs many times more.  

As long as Nintendo allows for the use of any USB based external HDD (no mandatory proprietary specially formatted "Nintendo brand" HDDs) to expand storage for game downloads and the like, what it means is a lower standard price for the console without additional cost for budget minded consumers who in all likelihood already have a USB HDD. 

Installs will be an issue with developers though as the base 8GB internal memory essentially eliminates the practicality of mandatory installs. It will likely be the same issue developers had with the Xbox 360, and were forced to work around. 


So what? So remove the HDD and now "THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART IS THE GPU, NINTENDO SHOULD DITCH THAT!!!!" 8GB of memory is pitful, short-sighted, and I might even add arrogant. "Well if people want storage, do it themselves. We are Nintendo, screw digital distribution even though we are in dead last when it comes to online gaming" USB HDD's are slow, and a PITA. Why do I want a freaking external hard drive plugged into my console?


No desire for USB HD? Super, throw in a fast flash memory card, it may support 64gb, but its a patch away from supporting SDXC (2TB limit on those)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K0977139

 

$50 for 64GB SD card that is still slow. I paid $50 for a 250GB HDD for my PS3. And this is only 64GB of memory..... SD cards CANNOT replace Hard Drives.

64GB is the limit on an SDHC card, which is why its 64GB, SDXC is a patch to existing SDHC technology which allows a limit of 2TB, of which none exists yet, my point is SD is an option. While I agree, an SD card won't replace the hard drive, any USB 2.0 hard drive will be excellent and should certainly be fast enough.



PlaystaionGamer said:
how Expensive are HDD's really these days for big companies like Nintendo.. COME ON!

Wont memory cards make it easier for hackers though?

what disks does the WiiU take? do you have to instal the games?


I have 500GB USB ex-HDDs at 7200RPM just laying around so I'd just use those lol. Shit I replaced the 120GB one in my PS3 to a 500GB 7200RPM too, stock HDD don't mean shit.

Therefore enabling Blu Ray playback support down the road like the Wii with DVD, I have no problem with that =P.

Blu Ray without the license, no idea but the option to install on external storage would be nice.



Sad, but expected. The more I see that more I am being let down.



Very nice! I'm glad we can use our own storage. SD cards are super cheap now and will be even cheaper in the future. I threw a 16gb class 10 sd card in my 3ds even though I don't really need, just because. Unlike the Vita which forces overpriced propriety cards on you, SD cards are standard fare and used in just about everything. (microSD w/adapter also works)
If you want more storage then use an external HDD.




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