I dont have one, never had a need for one.

And Noname is right, humans can be lazy.

THe PS2 didnt have to worry about things like updates, DLC, game installs, patches, DL games. online gaming(till later in its life). WII U does. 4GB 360 comes with Kinect from what ive seen

Honestly, every company should adopt what Sony has done with the PS3: removable HDD. Slap some USB ports on there so people can use their external HDD if they want and everyone is happy.

I still don't get why picking up an external HDD while you are shopping at Costco would be hard, you pass by those things right as you go in, but okie dokie, it's obviously too hard because people are too stupid. =P

I don't see how a removable HDD is easier to work with than plug and play USB. Are you seriously asking for girlfriends, moms and grand parents to swap out an internal HDD? hell no?

SD cards come in different reading speeds. Is this really the ideal form of storage for a video game home console? I think not. It just seems like Nintendo is trying whatever they can to lower the cost, and that's understandable. It's possible that a game won't load properly off of an SD card with low reading speed, so I suggest prospective Wii U owners to get an external HDD if 8GB is too little. You could use it for more than Wii U stuff too so there is extra incentive there.

If we are dealing with moms and grandparents, I don't think they will need more than 8GB for a video game console. It is also extremely easy to swap the HDD for PS3. If they have that much trouble, they can ask their boyfriends and husbands. :P

You also missed the part where I said it should have removable HDD AND USB ports.

They won't have to, they just plug in the USB2 external HDD lol.

and look where all these patches have gotten us. broken games. I stopped caring about skyrim on PS3 cause the first round of updates did not fix the frame rate issues. Perhaps it has now I dont know.

Before HDDs and memroy storage in consoles, developers were forced (held accountable) for releasing a game that worked. Now they know they can quickly patch it up if shit happens.  Now a few years from now when PS3 is no longer in production, will I be able to connect my PS3 online and download these patches from the PSN network to get the game to work?

consoles unfortunetley turned into a cheap man's PC. At least with a PC patches are acceptable because you can always find them years from now on some gaming site server, should you wish to play the games again.

this is the one thing that made consoles so popular and great. Having the ability to pull out an old system, put the game in and play without it saying there is an update avaialble must updated before play.

Wow, you named one game out of the entire library to represent how games play in terms of bugs. No, more often than not games do actually work, i dont know what your playing.  Granted there are some devs and pubs who do take advantage but that is few and in between. 

Before HDDs devs were forced to release games that worked?? LMAO, your right because we all know that NO game prior to PS360 released had any kind of bugs at all, none. Please. 

Some older PC games wont even run on the current ones, without jumping through some hoops (i tried) so IMHO they are just as bad as consoles, if not worse in that regard.

You keep harping on these patches. Hey you know how to play a game on PS3 years from now or even today without having to worry about updates or patches?? you just...disconnect from the internet!! Boom, there you go, if its not connected it cant update and you can play the game unmolested, i used to do it all the time.