S.T.A.G.E. said:
Publisher doesn't mean owner, it just means the general funder of an IP.
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Not even that. You don't have to fund a game to be the games publisher.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Insomniac games is a second party developer to Sony. They create games specialized for Sony's console while having their independence as a company, Sony owns the rights to the IP's.
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No, no, no you're dealing with very past tense here. Insomniac games is and always has been, a third party developer. Especially when they made Disruptor which was published by Universal in '96. They then made the Spyro games that were co-published/distributed between Universal/SCE. Then Universal got the rights to the characters and Insomniac while being a third party developer, made first party games for Sony in the form of Ratchet and Clank and Resistance, until they got fed up with that and stopped making first party games for them, now they make third party games for EA.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Naughty Dog used to be second party before Sony bought them as well in Playstations first generation.
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No, they were the same deal as Insomniac until Sony purchased them, they were third party for a decade and made Apple, Genesis and 3DO games. Then they made the Crash Bandicoot games that were co-published/distributed between Universal/SCE. Then Universal got the rights to the characters and Sony purchased ND and made the studio change from a third party to a first party.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Gears of War is neither owned nor the company who made it by Microsoft.
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So? Gears of War 1, 2 and 3 are still first party games. Microsoft says so. Lucasarts own Star Wars, but you damn sure Knights of the Republic is an EA game.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Publishing is only the funding for production and distribution of said game with the with the promise of profitable return.
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Publishing is getting the game on shelves (or digitally distributed) . You neither need to fund the game or even expect a promise of a return on it.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
The only rights Microsoft has to the Gears franchise is a three game exclusivity contract which means Epic has to develop said franchise exclusively for them.
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And I will have to call you out on this. THERE ARE NO OFFICIAL STATEMENTS IN REGARDS TO WHAT CONTRACTS MICROSOFT HAS WITH EPIC REGARDING THE GEARS OF WAR SERIES.
Any one who says that Epic only has an "x amount of game" deal with Microsoft is making shit up...or parroting the guesses of Michael Pachter on the GT Bonus round from 2009. The truth is it could have been 1 game and Epic liked working with MS so much, they wanted to continue in perpetuity or it could be for 50,000 Gears games and Mark Rein has sold his decendents into slavery. Only Epic and MS (and their lawyers) know.
It's an urban myth perpetuated by the ardent desire for non-Xbox 360 owners in hopes that the franchise might make it to another console some day. The franchise might if Epic gets another publisher, those 3 games won't...unless it's a Microsoft Published HD collection for one of their new consoles.
The crystal ball says, "options for renewal" after each games sales come in would be the most likely scenario...MS wouldn't want to tie themselves down to a series that might fail, just ask the Too Human Trilogy.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
That contract is now over and Epic can do whatever the hell they want with the franchise.
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They could have done that with Part 3 and Shadow Complex...of course that was back when it was only a 2 game deal, I imagine next gen when Samaritan and PCF's Pendulum War trilogy it will only be a 8 game contract.