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disolitude on 03 May 2012
pezus said:
disolitude said:
pezus said:

I have a question, wasn't Galaxy II the best phone on the market for a while (not just a few months)? Apple won't top this. Samsung...doubt it, since they have the next Galaxy next year. Nokia...don't think so

What are we talking about? Hardware? Software? Design?

Design wise, Lumia 900 and HTC one X easily wins over this.

Hardware wise HTC One X and this are neck and neck.

Software wise I think that its safe to say that Galaxy Nexus will still be king on the android side.

Hardware. Isn't HTC One X pretty new? So we probably won't see an improvement until about a year from now


Yeah both are new and have battery guzzling quad core processors. Samsung will probably end up being a little more powerful but neither will be chugging playing the latest Angry birds :)

 CPU/GPU aside, HTC one X supposedly has a better screen (non pentile) and I don't see how anyone can look at both phones from a design perspective and say "yes I wans the SIII over One X". One looks like a sleek smrtphone, the other looks like a Toyota Previa turned sideways.



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superchunk on 03 May 2012
Crystalchild said:

*Raises his hand* my sincere apologies to you chunk.

@topic: Well yeah, it's kinda weird to see how Phones are growing so much more powerful year by year, which is why i think that the next generation of consoles will be blown by PC's the day they are out.  the thing that will still give them (Handhelds aswell as Consoles) an edge over Hardware of equal strength is that they are dedicated to certain features only, and have their own, optimized operation Systems. (though i think this edge will be lost - especially for consoles - very quick.)

:)

While consoles will always have their design based benefits, that line is being blurred by iOS and Android already and WP8 as it launches. With set-top boxes from all three being put in the front room, consoles only big difference will end up being 1st party stuff.

In MS's case, Xbox will probably remain their set-top offerin and thus be a non-issue.

In Nintendo's case, they have 1st party software that can easily carry their hardware and if you include the rumor of Wii U having Android... well its a great opportunity.

In Sony's case, they're the worst off. Their 1st party can't carry the name on its own and the Vita was their chance to show Android integration. They chose a whole new OS instead. So, I now have my doubts if PS4 will have that or Vita's OS. Realistically, on their own they'll never match apps and overall content as iOS, Android, and Windows.

Next gen is going to be interesting.



Deoz on 03 May 2012

Great...Now get some games in one of those.



mjk45 on 03 May 2012
superchunk said:
mjk45 said:
To my way of thinking if there was a Vita phone , it would sell at around the price of it's competitors and most likely come with similar spec in regard to extra ram etc ,also it would enjoy the same luxury of releasing upgrades every 6-12 months , now this sounds good from a phone point of view but not so much from the games side for a closed system , I'm mean really if Sony want a phone with analogue sticks surely it isn't that hard to add it into a future smart phone , and leave the vita as a dedicated games machine .


and they did do that. However the Xperia Play was bad in that it was a low-end phone at launch with no gaming library. Had it been Vita's power with Vita's library, things would have been drastically different. I'd own one right now for sure. Maybe a 2nd one for my oldest son.

What i meant by that was in todays market with todays tech ,you allready hit the nail on the head in regards to Xperia , I see the  Vitas strength is its closed system and you know what you get , where as smartphones tend to be on this cycle of new versions are appearing every 6months and apps and small games rule the roosts , to me in Sonys case  it was created to be the psp's succesor but they can build up a gaming software platform on the Vita then some of that can easily be translated to a Sony range of smartphones  , in short the Vita spec rather than the machine itself would have made a good phone when it came out but the past is the past and it was made as a game machine , any way i have skype on the thing.



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oni-link on 03 May 2012
pezus said:
oni-link said:
I think what superchunk( a very fair guy I must say) is trying to show is that the Vita so early in it's lifetime is already on the verge(if not already) of being obsolete in terms of hardware capabilities. In fact, Superchunk had used the higher rumored specs of the Vita which could be less powerful when comparing it to the S3!!! Once again SC good job on a fair and interesting article.

Better than being obsolete before release!


Don't be so mean lol...yeah but the Vita will never get a chance to reach it's potential since it's headed toward PSP go, N-gage, Wonderswan and TurboExpress road of success. Regardless of your shipped vs sold spin to make you feel better about the current dismal sales of the Vita, it will be once again conquered by the 3DS...sorry!!!

 



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oni-link on 03 May 2012
Crystalchild said:
superchunk said:
oni-link said:
I think what superchunk( a very fair guy I must say) is trying to show is that the Vita so early in it's lifetime is already on the verge(if not already) of being obsolete in terms of hardware capabilities. In fact, Superchunk had used the higher rumored specs of the Vita which could be less powerful when comparing it to the S3!!! Once again SC good job on a fair and interesting article.


Thank you!

Someone who actually read the OP and gets it.

*Raises his hand* my sincere apologies to you chunk.

@topic: Well yeah, it's kinda weird to see how Phones are growing so much more powerful year by year, which is why i think that the next generation of consoles will be blown by PC's the day they are out.  the thing that will still give them (Handhelds aswell as Consoles) an edge over Hardware of equal strength is that they are dedicated to certain features only, and have their own, optimized operation Systems. (though i think this edge will be lost - especially for consoles - very quick.)


yeah...unlike me (3ds fan) and pezus (vita fan) you can trust what superchunk is saying since he doesn't have an alterior motive to his posts!!!  Though currently my facts/opinion about the 3DS/smart-devices beating the PSV to a premature death does hold some validity at the moment!!!



fillet on 03 May 2012
oni-link said:
Crystalchild said:
superchunk said:
oni-link said:
I think what superchunk( a very fair guy I must say) is trying to show is that the Vita so early in it's lifetime is already on the verge(if not already) of being obsolete in terms of hardware capabilities. In fact, Superchunk had used the higher rumored specs of the Vita which could be less powerful when comparing it to the S3!!! Once again SC good job on a fair and interesting article.


Thank you!

Someone who actually read the OP and gets it.

*Raises his hand* my sincere apologies to you chunk.

@topic: Well yeah, it's kinda weird to see how Phones are growing so much more powerful year by year, which is why i think that the next generation of consoles will be blown by PC's the day they are out.  the thing that will still give them (Handhelds aswell as Consoles) an edge over Hardware of equal strength is that they are dedicated to certain features only, and have their own, optimized operation Systems. (though i think this edge will be lost - especially for consoles - very quick.)


yeah...unlike me (3ds fan) and pezus (anything sony fan) you can trust what superchunk is saying since he doesn't have an alterior motive to his posts!!!  Though currently my facts/opinion about the 3DS/smart-devices beating the PSV to a premature death does hold some validity at the moment!!!

fixed :)



thismeintiel on 03 May 2012

So what is the point of this thread? To show that phones and tablets will take over gaming? But according to one of superchunk's previous post, Sony is the only one that will really be affected by that .

It doesn't matter how powerful tablets and smartphones get, they aren't taking over anything. The main reason being that they are being sold to a different audience. While people do play games on them and some games have sold quite well (mostly quickie games), the main purpose for a person to buy a smartphone is still to make phone calls and a tablet to have a portable touchscreen computer. Gaming on them is only secondary, which is why the OS is never optimized for it and can never take full advantage of its specs. And on the off chance that a few people do buy it only for gaming, I would bet 9 out of 10 of them still play on consoles.



 

Solid-Stark on 03 May 2012

Imo, in terms of gaming relative to hardware, no phone will make the Vita obsolete. If the Vita is, then what's the 3DS?



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oni-link on 04 May 2012
fillet said:
oni-link said:
Crystalchild said:
superchunk said:
oni-link said:
I think what superchunk( a very fair guy I must say) is trying to show is that the Vita so early in it's lifetime is already on the verge(if not already) of being obsolete in terms of hardware capabilities. In fact, Superchunk had used the higher rumored specs of the Vita which could be less powerful when comparing it to the S3!!! Once again SC good job on a fair and interesting article.


Thank you!

Someone who actually read the OP and gets it.

*Raises his hand* my sincere apologies to you chunk.

@topic: Well yeah, it's kinda weird to see how Phones are growing so much more powerful year by year, which is why i think that the next generation of consoles will be blown by PC's the day they are out.  the thing that will still give them (Handhelds aswell as Consoles) an edge over Hardware of equal strength is that they are dedicated to certain features only, and have their own, optimized operation Systems. (though i think this edge will be lost - especially for consoles - very quick.)


yeah...unlike me (3ds fan) and pezus (anything sony fan) you can trust what superchunk is saying since he doesn't have an alterior motive to his posts!!!  Though currently my facts/opinion about the 3DS/smart-devices beating the PSV to a 5premature death does hold some validity at the moment!!!

fixed :)

lol...I did start suspecting after reading about his rants that the 3DS is overtracked using the shipped vs sold spin (no diff bet the 2 IMHO).  It won't change the fact that PSV's future is hightly dependent on it's second holiday season.  I don't even know if the PSV could sell 7M units by this holiday. (it hasn't even sold 2M units since launching in Dec 2011...that's 5 freaking months)