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pezus said:
VGKing said:
pezus said:

Well the graphics look exactly the same. Guess I couldn't expect them to improve on something.


It's still on PS3/360........

You can't improve the graphics on the game without sacrificing many features such as 4-player split screen and # of online players.

I don't play Call of Duty for its graphics, I play it for its addicting multiplayer just like the 25million other people out there.

If it's so addicting, why not play the same game all the time instead of buying a new one each year?

I have every Call of Duty title in my collection from MW2 onward, saying I would skip the next year.  But, it is like Activision's duo keeps adding new features and modes to the series, and sometimes takes stuff out, that makes it worth owning different ones.  Will see if Black Ops 2 adds anything new.  I may end up skipping this year, if they don't. And I hope they don't.



pezus said:
UltimateUnknown said:
pezus said:
VGKing said:
pezus said:
VGKing said:
pezus said:

Well, there's at least some originality here. They really need a new engine though, it just looks old.


Easily outdoes Crysis IMO.
Graphically, yeah showing its age. But that didn't stop Black Ops or Modern Warfare 3 from breaking industry records.

Wait...in what way? There's no need for you to bring up the sales each time someone mentions something bad about CoD


Story. It already seems way more interesting that of Crysis 2 or 3.
Sales is just common sense.

I still don't see how Crysis was relevant here. It's not too hard to outdo Crysis 2's story TBH

LOL are you actually trying to defend Crysis 2? Its multiplayer was a copypasta of COD. I will not comment about PC because it is a much superior game on PC (as are most PC games for that matter at this point) but on console it had extremely clunky controls. Your character feels like a ton of bricks to move, it may have had better graphics but comes nowhere near COD in terms of gameplay. And why exactly does graphics become the only thing to consider when it comes to COD anyway?

This is coming from a dude who still plays the original Crysis in its full glory on PC just to take in the beautiful visuals.

What are you on about? I implied Crysis 2's story wasn't good. BUT neither were most CoD games' stories (except 4 and maybe Black Ops). I explained why I am considering the graphics here in the answer above. It's not the only thing to consider, it's just that we know what to expect by now from CoD. It's always the same thing with a few new maps and maybe a new gameplay mode or two. Putting some effort into the graphics is the least they can do. I heard they usually botch the PS3 version too.

Well COD campaigns are average at best if you ask me, thats not exactly why most people play it for.

As for your question about graphics, if you play PC games (I don't know if you do, pardon me) you will know that the processing power of your CPU and GPU are heavily used for higher frame rates as well as good textures/graphics in general. A lot of times, if you want to have a smooth experience with a game (and you don't have a crazy powerful rig) you need to tone down your graphics to be able to get a smooth gameplay experience. 

For COD, it HAS to always run at 60 FPS on consoles which not that many FPS do. Battlefield, Crysis, Homefront and most other FPS I have played all run at 30 FPS which gives them the clunky feel (imo) rather than the fast pace trademark feel that you get with COD. But because they run at a lower frame rate they can use the remaining processing power for better graphics. COD keeps the graphics low so that they can get the game to feel like it does. I don't think they can make much changes to that until the next generation hits. I'm sure Activision/Treyarch has the resources to make the graphics next gen but they wouldn't be able to translate that over to console, plus they aren't really interested in PC.



 

pezus said:

But they already have the gameplay down, why can't they at least try to improve the graphics some? When you make a billion bucks of each game and put so little effort into it you know there's something wrong.


Uh...the gameplay keeps improving with each game. It's not just copy and paste.

Like I said before, 7 YEAR OLD CONSOLES. Gameplay and Features > Graphics

Just look at Bf3 and how many modes it has. Compare that to Modern Warfare 3....



pezus said:

What are you on about? I implied Crysis 2's story wasn't good. BUT neither were most CoD games' stories (except 4 and maybe Black Ops). I explained why I am considering the graphics here in the answer above. It's not the only thing to consider, it's just that we know what to expect by now from CoD. It's always the same thing with a few new maps and maybe a new gameplay mode or two. Putting some effort into the graphics is the least they can do. I heard they usually botch the PS3 version too.

well if they did "botch the PS3 version' it certainly didn't affect me. Didn't notice anything like "Skyrim-lag".
The timed-exclusive 360 map packs are annoying though.



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Most of the people who were so against COD after last year's MW3 (great multiplayer IMO) will now be like oh maybe i will get this. Oh this won't be like old one, the older one or some form of insult at previous games in the series. This is made by treyarch or i will get this for zombies but hey guys i totally hate COD. Happens every year and than it ends up selling millions of copies. So many closet fans.



pezus said:
UltimateUnknown said:
pezus said:

What are you on about? I implied Crysis 2's story wasn't good. BUT neither were most CoD games' stories (except 4 and maybe Black Ops). I explained why I am considering the graphics here in the answer above. It's not the only thing to consider, it's just that we know what to expect by now from CoD. It's always the same thing with a few new maps and maybe a new gameplay mode or two. Putting some effort into the graphics is the least they can do. I heard they usually botch the PS3 version too.

Well COD campaigns are average at best if you ask me, thats not exactly why most people play it for.

As for your question about graphics, if you play PC games (I don't know if you do, pardon me) you will know that the processing power of your CPU and GPU are heavily used for higher frame rates as well as good textures/graphics in general. A lot of times, if you want to have a smooth experience with a game (and you don't have a crazy powerful rig) you need to tone down your graphics to be able to get a smooth gameplay experience. 

For COD, it HAS to always run at 60 FPS on consoles which not that many FPS do. Battlefield, Crysis, Homefront and most other FPS I have played all run at 30 FPS which gives them the clunky feel (imo) rather than the fast pace trademark feel that you get with COD. But because they run at a lower frame rate they can use the remaining processing power for better graphics. COD keeps the graphics low so that they can get the game to feel like it does. I don't think they can make much changes to that until the next generation hits. I'm sure Activision/Treyarch has the resources to make the graphics next gen but they wouldn't be able to translate that over to console, plus they aren't really interested in PC.

I game mainly on PC now, which is the reason I am always unimpressed by their games. Putting some effort into the PC version wouldn't hurt their sales at all.

Well as I said before, PC games are superior. And the reason you are disappointed is because you are comparing the PC version of COD to other PC games which are superior to almost every console FPS at this point of time. While I do agree that they could beef up the PC version (like BF3 did with 1080p 60 FPS on PC only), COD isn't a PC game. 95% of their audience is on consoles and Activision probably sees no reason to invest money to please a small portion of the fanbase on PC with insane graphics when they can make do with sub-par. And of course that can be disappointing if you do have a PC that can handle a graphically testing game. But next gen is near, I am sure the next iteration of COD will be able to utilise next gen hardware, and with that the PC version will also get a huge boost.



 

pezus said:
VGKing said:
pezus said:

But they already have the gameplay down, why can't they at least try to improve the graphics some? When you make a billion bucks of each game and put so little effort into it you know there's something wrong.


Uh...the gameplay keeps improving with each game. It's not just copy and paste.

Like I said before, 7 YEAR OLD CONSOLES. Gameplay and Features > Graphics

Just look at Bf3 and how many modes it has. Compare that to Modern Warfare 3....

I am comparing BF3 to MW3 and what I see is gameplay I find far superior in BF3. Maybe not on consoles but the PC experience of BF3 vs. MW3 is just a whole another level. Don't take this as an insult, this is just how I personally feel after playing both.

I feel the complete opposite.
:/

I do like nice graphics but for multiplayer games I always prefer gameplay.



First of all, I need to say that I'm one of those CoD haters. So I'm probably extremely biased... That being said, from looking at this trailer I think it looks awful. Graphics looked like 3 or 4 years old and I usually don't care about graphics but for a multi billion dollar franchise I think its unacceptable.

Also, IMO this thread is filled with CoD fans trying to convince ppl (and themselves?) that the fact that they are trowing 60$ of their hard earned money to activision each and every single year isn't a waste when their is so many great games of extremely high quality and allot of fun available on the market. (which allot of them sadly go under everyone's radar *cough*Rayman*cough*) Believe me, I was just like you when I was playing World of Warcraft (Also owned by Activision, what a coincidence :P). When I was playing wow, allot of friends and family members thought I was stupid for giving them 20$ every months for years (and now I realize I was indeed extremely stupid). But I tried to justify myself by saying stuffs like ''they constantly work on the game... patches make the game always new, their is new dungeons, their is new battlegrounds, they change the gameplay, keep things balanced so the game is always fresh...'' etc... This is extremely familiar to CoD fans today trying to justify letting themselves getting milked with ''they are adding new maps, they are adding new guns blahblahblah...'' So yes, I used to be like you and I know how it feels to have everyone against you and constantly having to justify yourself, but you will all realize one day or a other like I did that if you have to constantly justify yourself to everyone, the odds are that you are simply fooling yourself. You will probably wake up one day and see a other CoD revealed while feeling absolutely no interest because you realized that you got bored out of your last CoD unusually faster than previous titles and you feel like it will be the same with the next one making it not worth it (buy new title for 60$, feel a sense of freshness for a week than get bored once again). That day you will probably look back and realize how stupid you were for spending 180$, 240$ or 300$ on 5 different CoD titles wondering what you could have possibly have done with all that money if you stopped at 1 or 2. That's how I felt when they revealed Mist of Pandaria (next wow expansion), I had no interest for it, I stopped playing wow like 10 months ago, and now I wish I could go back and tell that dumb ass kid I used to be when I started playing 5 years ago to not waste all these hundreds of dollars on all these subscription fees and expansions.

Its just frustrating knowing that so many great and talented developers that often offer ppl brand new and fun experiences gets buried by CoD's sales. And how does that evil billion dollar company Activision treat its fans? They treat it like mindless cows only good for milking. (and to me it seems they are right to do so cause apparently IMO you have to be mindless to spend 60$ year after year for the same thing) Like I said previously, I thought it looked awful (and I actually thought MW3 looked nice from the trailer last year), hopefully ppl will also think the same way and maybe the fact of CoD being the only game we talk about, the only game ppl are lining up at retailers every Novembers will finally come to a end. Cant wait for CoD being a normal franchise like so many others, I'm rly tired of always hearing about how it shattered records (which IMO are totally undeserving)

Again I want all of you to know that I'm putting allot of weight on the fact that this is IMO, so plz don't feel offended cause it is not my intention to personally offend any of you, it's just the way I see it. I know I will get alot of hate and probably allot of ppl will try to show me how wrong I am, but trust me their is pretty much nothing you can tell me that I haven't heard before, I doubt their is anything anyone of you can say that could make me change my mind.

One last thing, I think Activision is getting extremely arrogant by keeping launching CoDs every year despite the fact that this is making so many ppl angry. Feels like they are taunting all of those who see thru their ugly way of making business with ''yeah, were ripping off and ppl every year with a new CoD, It's successful and as-long as it stays that way we see no reason to stop, what you gonna do about it sucka! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'' lol



 

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pezus said:

I just find the BF3 gameplay much more varied because you have the usual guns and then you have lots of fun vehicles and extremely large maps. I feel so much freedom when playing it. Compare that to MW3: You spawn and much of the time you're dead again within seconds.

Pretty much sums up my own opinion about it as well, the vehicles alone are such a differentiator to the play style, it's just much more fun IMO.