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Final-Fan said:

1.  Such as? 

2.  Uh, what?  Seriously, I have no idea what you mean by this.  There is no better way to express your opinion that the day should end without lynching anyone than voting "No Lynch" and I would be delighted to hear your argument to the contrary. 

1. Something that would force me to vote for no lynch or that would cast heavy suspicion on someone.

2. I meant that my way of not lynching anyone (not voting) is also not lynching anyone, even if I didn't vote for a no lynch.



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morenoingrato said:
noname2200 said:

You're being vague. For starters, define your terms: what do YOU consider to be "off-topic chattering"? I also have no idea what you mean re: Rol and "game defining clue."

For reference sake, I'm looking at page 5 (50 posts/page), where you made your post. It marks the beginning of regular activity in this thread. My reading of the situation is quite different from the one you're positing here.

Although an addendum to something I said earlier: radish voted for a time limit before you did. I was wrong about that fact.

I looked at many posts and didn't see anything really worthy of the game.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494475

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494491

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494771

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494807

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494819

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494862

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494865

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494907

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494925

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494957

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494960

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494973

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494974

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4495063

 

All off-topic blablabla? Keep in mind, these omit the posts on page 4 (which were temporally near these posts), none of these center on Rol, and there were nine posts left on the page after yours, so these 14 posts were out of 40.



To sum up this whole "to lynch or not to lynch" debate in a way that even I could understand it:

It's generally a good idea to lynch suspicious looking people, because even if they turn out town, it reduces the number of potential mislynches the next day. Assuming there is only one or two iffy players in a group, you will end up with 4/5 pretty much guaranteed towns, and the rest of them must be the Mafia



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RolStoppable said:
radishhead said:
Maybe I misread it, but I saw that message as "I said that Rol being in the game was great, but I realise that didn't add anything to the game's progression"

And look what we have now. The game is actually running again. We are getting somewhere. There might not be a lot of clues, but at least many different people are talking at the same time which gives us all a better idea of who is what than the constant silence before.

Yes, right now it is.

When you came here, it was nothing, you came, but how could that add to the game in that particular moment?



morenoingrato said:
Final-Fan said:

1.  Such as? 

2.  Uh, what?  Seriously, I have no idea what you mean by this.  There is no better way to express your opinion that the day should end without lynching anyone than voting "No Lynch" and I would be delighted to hear your argument to the contrary. 

1. Something that would force me to vote for no lynch or that would cast heavy suspicion on someone.

2. I meant that my way of not lynching anyone (not voting) is also not lynching anyone, even if I didn't vote for a no lynch.

No lynch is much more decisive though- it's like saying "today, I don't think there should be a lynch." Whereas not voting at all is just like "whatever happens, I don't want to be a part of it"



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theprof00 said:
morenoingrato said:
Final-Fan said:
If all you do is lurk, your only contribution to the town is to be a suspicious person (lurkers are suspicious). Better to eliminate a "possible mafia" slot now if that's all you're going to be.

That is what I meant by detriment to the town.

Yes, and as I said, many previous games were a failure to town because of that. We actually need something to go on instead of jumping into a seemingly unimportant mis-ynch.

While I understand this can be true from a certain perspective, it is not correct from the realistic perspective. Someone the town lynches is likely a person that town was not feeling very confident about. Had that person be given the chance to live, sure they might be cleared, or something else might happen, but it also allows for a suspicious player to live down the line.

If we mislynch all the suspicious townies, it helps us to narrow down the mafia, because when we need to be accurate we aren't being distracted by suspicious townies putting their foot in their mouths.

Think about it. Someone who makes slips could be town or mafia. If they're town, you mislynch early...well, he could have been mafia. If you keep him alive instead, he will continue to be a doubt in people's minds, and furthermore, if he's copped, it's nearly a waste since that copping would have been more useful on a player that is hard to read.

That being said, it's not a good idea to lynch a townie NO MATTER WHAT. However, mislynches are always going to happen as lynches themselves are calculated risks, therefore, it's not a terrible idea to lynch someone you're unsure about even if they turn up town, because you will very rarely be confident in lynching even the mafia.

Well, I guess the "threat to town" bit applies in that case. But we should keep mis-lynches as little as possible.



radishhead said:

No lynch is much more decisive though- it's like saying "today, I don't think there should be a lynch." Whereas not voting at all is just like "whatever happens, I don't want to be a part of it"

I know, I wanted to be part of the "on the fence" people.



noname2200 said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494475

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494491

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494771

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494807

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494819

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494862

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494865

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494907

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494925

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494957

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494960

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494973

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4494974

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4495063

 

All off-topic blablabla? Keep in mind, these omit the posts on page 4 (which were temporally near these posts), none of these center on Rol, and there were nine posts left on the page after yours, so these 14 posts were out of 40.

Okay, there were posts, but far less compared to the ones right now.



RolStoppable said:

It takes some time until throwing around random accusations comes to fruition.

Besides, as noname pointed out, there were other things going on, none of which you ever touched on.

I didn't touch them, I was lazily lurking.

Lurk = 101% Mafia?



morenoingrato said:
radishhead said:

No lynch is much more decisive though- it's like saying "today, I don't think there should be a lynch." Whereas not voting at all is just like "whatever happens, I don't want to be a part of it"

I know, I wanted to be part of the "on the fence" people.

Except, had you read the rules, you would have known (as someone also brought up) that by the time limit, any non-votes are thrown out, thereby, you not voting is equal to the vote pool only being 11, meaning that it only takes 6 to lynch instead of 7. So really, you are casting a vote for the popular lynch without looking like you're casting a vote.

No, that's not similar to no lynch at all, especially given that no lynch only had one vote, and a couple users were at 3, pushing 4.