Yeah, I did.

@ prof

You are talking about me what do you want me to do ignore it?? As if your post about me are full of good stuff about me. All fo you are suspecting me, right?

I like your post. With the time limit and Rad has the majority of the vote there is a high chance the we have a lynch because people that voted for him will not have a chance to unvote if they are not around. 

Anyway, the same can be said for the people who wants a time limit. They want to end the day with a player that has the majority of the vote and hoping that other players won't make it in time to unvote and  excited to end the day so that can use their abilty to kill a townie and  very excited to have a strategy meeting at night time.

If you recall, it was a question that I had asked someone else that you responded to.

Anyway, no, I am not currently suspecting you.

To be fair, I only voted time limit because a day one lynch is always a mis-lynch. And there is nothing solid to go by. Voting for someone who asked for a no lynch? Asking for a no lynch in day one is perfectly justified.

Right, so why didn't you vote no lynch?

@bold

Ok I am confuse. Aren't we talking about last round?

Calling time out again for this response (and this response only).

I do understand your objection, but that's why I proposed making it a team average; if there are four mafia, and one or two of them lurk(s), the kill couldn't have happened unless his/their teammates posted enough to make up for him/them. In other words, that line of thinking would be both lazy and flawed, because it's not necessarily true. This is especially true if X number is a fairly low one, since there shouldn't be many players who don't reach that goal (especially since item use is still tied to individual post count: the individual has his own carrot to reach as well).

I concede it's not a perfect proposal, but I believe it's the beginning of a workable one.

Your second objection is a good one, though. I suppose there'd also have to be some objective means of incentivizing quality as well as quantity. It's moot for this game, since the proposal wasn't picked up, but it's something to ponder for future purposes.

Alright, time-in!

1. What value is there in role claiming this early on? Especially when the rules provide that items are changeable, and the rules implicitly state that some have only finite uses, so some roles are almost guaranteed to change as the game progresses. Or am I misinterpreting what you mean by "role claim"?

Some folks believe that, depending on the number of players, a first day lynch is akin to a "free" lynch for the town, so they push for one. I believe it was theRepublic who has some formula to determine when he thinks it is/isn't appropriate.

Other players prefer to have long days in order to generate some conversation between players. If there are people posting, as there are now, I generally fall in this camp.

Finally, the rules in this particular game means that a day one lynch is at least slightly more likely to occur with the time limit. Quote:

"Voting/Lynching will be based on a majority system.  Somebody needs to receive greater than 50% of the total votes in order to be lynched.  If 33% of the remaining players vote for a Time-limit there will be issued a ~24 hour time limit, valid as soon as the last necessary vote has been cast.  Any non votes will be eliminated from the count at the end of each day.  Understand that this means if there are 12 players, and only 9 voted by the end of the day, the 50% measure is based off of the 9 votes, not the 12 votes." (emphasis added)

If your goal was to ensure that no one got lynched today, the time limit was not the best way to go about it. Voting "No Lynch" is more appropriate.

I also dislike the time limit, seeing as how things started picking up, but in fairness it's been several days (little d) since we started, so some fatigue is understandable.

If there's conversation happening, there's information to mine through. And if we rush to the first Night without first creating some interaction, there won't be any interaction between players to compare against the information learned at night.

Moreover, I'm surprised to hear you say that nobody wants to kill anyone on Day One. If I recall correctly, you yourself were a vote away from getting lynched in your first game here, and someone else was lynched in your place that game. Have things gotten more conservative since then?

I have to agree with Final-Fan; he didn't do this at all. Were you merely looking for an excuse to talk about your item? You have been pushing for role claims since early this game; it started three days ago, and the request came out of the blue.

This is a weirdly timed post. We just had a player about to be replaced with someone who hasn't played before, the new player was asking questions about the history of the game, and Final-Fan and noctis were in the midst of grilling spurge on the latter's posts. What part of this is "off-topic blablabla"?

spurgeonryan said: Long story short, no matter what item I have or what role I play the Prof is going to throw me to the wolves and see who pounces first tonight! If that happens I hope that it is a big time mafia guy that I help take down!

Does this mean you're now convinced that prof is a townie?

This is partly just noctis' luck: the games I've played have been more even, and the two mafia wins I remember each had four or more factions of "scum" (mafia, or other bad guys like serial killers).

Damn, mega-posts from work are going to take forever. =^/

Also,

Vote: No Lynch

Please learn how to use past-tense when talking about something that happened in the past.

I was able to figure out that the first sentence was about last game, but the last sentence seemed to be talking about the present.

Uhm, I don't know about that. Time limit is very advantageous for the mafia  since they can kill at night and they can just choose to lurk which is harder for the townies to read. If there is unlimited time the more tha mafia get impatient since they can't kill. They can't also start a lynch train without the risk of suspicion casting over them. IMHO.