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I bought the new Ipad but if I will buy an alternate, I will get Asus transformer prime infinity which will come out this summer.



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superchunk said:

I've seen a couple of you blast Android as not being a true replacement for Windows.... well how?

It's good for some things, like web based stuff and some games as you mentioned. But running Windows 8 means you have a huge backlog of available applications, some of which you may or may not be using in your daily life. I know an Android tablet would in no way be able to free me from my laptop for that reason alone, regardless of keyboard and mouse combatibility. 

And without having tried it, I would guess Windows is more optimized for mouse and keyboard in general, not to mention for tasks like file management.



Rainbird said:
superchunk said:

I've seen a couple of you blast Android as not being a true replacement for Windows.... well how?

It's good for some things, like web based stuff and some games as you mentioned. But running Windows 8 means you have a huge backlog of available applications, some of which you may or may not be using in your daily life. I know an Android tablet would in no way be able to free me from my laptop for that reason alone, regardless of keyboard and mouse combatibility. 

And without having tried it, I would guess Windows is more optimized for mouse and keyboard in general, not to mention for tasks like file management.

I'd bet that after some intial changes to your daily use of stuff, you'd realize there is no loss but a gain in flexibility of having a tablet AND a laptop. Granted waiting for a Windows8 device might just prove to be better overall (I personally am looking forward to them as well), but I still think an Android based one would be just as good and probably will be what I choose in the long run as I really like Google's services and its personalization.



Rainbird said:
superchunk said:

I've seen a couple of you blast Android as not being a true replacement for Windows.... well how?

It's good for some things, like web based stuff and some games as you mentioned. But running Windows 8 means you have a huge backlog of available applications, some of which you may or may not be using in your daily life. I know an Android tablet would in no way be able to free me from my laptop for that reason alone, regardless of keyboard and mouse combatibility. 

And without having tried it, I would guess Windows is more optimized for mouse and keyboard in general, not to mention for tasks like file management.


But here's the problem with Windows 8 tablets: That huge backlog of applications won't run on them. 

Unless you get one of the Atom tablets, I guess, then you get a chunky, noisy tablet with bad battery life and you can run old apps if you're willing to put up with a terrible interface.

Microsoft has a pretty good history of getting developers on board (excepting Phone 7), so that situation might not persist, but I'm not going to recommend early adoption of Win 8 tabs to anybody. Windows on tablets is going to effectively be a brand new platform, and it will need to prove itself.

To the OP, if playing a few games and watching internet video are your use cases, and $400 is too much of a barrier to you, might as well get a Kindle Fire. It's the cheapest tablet, and the second best supported by developers.



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Rainbird said:
superchunk said:

I've seen a couple of you blast Android as not being a true replacement for Windows.... well how?

It's good for some things, like web based stuff and some games as you mentioned. But running Windows 8 means you have a huge backlog of available applications, some of which you may or may not be using in your daily life. I know an Android tablet would in no way be able to free me from my laptop for that reason alone, regardless of keyboard and mouse combatibility. 

And without having tried it, I would guess Windows is more optimized for mouse and keyboard in general, not to mention for tasks like file management.


Sorry, huge backlog of available applications for Windows won't work on Windows tablets. Making x86 apps run on ARM would be magic. 

Edit: Beaten.



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superchunk said:
Rainbird said:
superchunk said:

I've seen a couple of you blast Android as not being a true replacement for Windows.... well how?

It's good for some things, like web based stuff and some games as you mentioned. But running Windows 8 means you have a huge backlog of available applications, some of which you may or may not be using in your daily life. I know an Android tablet would in no way be able to free me from my laptop for that reason alone, regardless of keyboard and mouse combatibility. 

And without having tried it, I would guess Windows is more optimized for mouse and keyboard in general, not to mention for tasks like file management.

I'd bet that after some intial changes to your daily use of stuff, you'd realize there is no loss but a gain in flexibility of having a tablet AND a laptop. Granted waiting for a Windows8 device might just prove to be better overall (I personally am looking forward to them as well), but I still think an Android based one would be just as good and probably will be what I choose in the long run as I really like Google's services and its personalization.

I agree it probably wouldn't be a big issue if I didn't have the choice, but I do have the choice, so I don't see any reason to carry around two devices when I can have one device that can switch on the fly.

And I actually think the Android setup is quite clever, which is why I like that Microsoft has done something similar with W8. Microsoft have lately also moved away from trying to "own" the things people use, and are trying to accomodate everything instead, and they seem to be hitting that nail pretty hard, which is just one more reason I'm excited for W8.



@ famousringo & michael_stutzer

I wasn't referring to pure tablets, I'm talking about hybrid devices that can be between tablet and laptop by sliding a keyboard from out from the body for example, which Intel has demonstrated as an Ultrabook concept already. So it's the best of both worlds really.



Rainbird said:

@ famousringo & michael_stutzer

I wasn't referring to pure tablets, I'm talking about hybrid devices that can be between tablet and laptop by sliding a keyboard from out from the body for example, which Intel has demonstrated as an Ultrabook concept already. So it's the best of both worlds really.


We're referring to the software. Windows on ARM won't run legacy Windows software. An x86 tablet would, but it would probably also suck as hard as Windows tablets did in 2005. Try to imagine one of those things docking with a keyboard peripheral. You'd need lead bricks in the keyboard to prevent it from falling over. :P



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

famousringo said:
Rainbird said:

@ famousringo & michael_stutzer

I wasn't referring to pure tablets, I'm talking about hybrid devices that can be between tablet and laptop by sliding a keyboard from out from the body for example, which Intel has demonstrated as an Ultrabook concept already. So it's the best of both worlds really.

We're referring to the software. Windows on ARM won't run legacy Windows software. An x86 tablet would, but it would probably also suck as hard as Windows tablets did in 2005. Try to imagine one of those things docking with a keyboard peripheral. You'd need lead bricks in the keyboard to prevent it from falling over. :P

I know WOA won't run legacy software, but I don't see any reason you can't have good x86 tablets. They're probably not going to be as slim as their ARM brethren, but I think that's a worth tradeoff. Ultrabooks have shown that it's certainly possible to create slick x86 hardware.



Rainbird said:
famousringo said:
Rainbird said:

@ famousringo & michael_stutzer

I wasn't referring to pure tablets, I'm talking about hybrid devices that can be between tablet and laptop by sliding a keyboard from out from the body for example, which Intel has demonstrated as an Ultrabook concept already. So it's the best of both worlds really.

We're referring to the software. Windows on ARM won't run legacy Windows software. An x86 tablet would, but it would probably also suck as hard as Windows tablets did in 2005. Try to imagine one of those things docking with a keyboard peripheral. You'd need lead bricks in the keyboard to prevent it from falling over. :P

I know WOA won't run legacy software, but I don't see any reason you can't have good x86 tablets. They're probably not going to be as slim as their ARM brethren, but I think that's a worth tradeoff. Ultrabooks have shown that it's certainly possible to create slick x86 hardware.

 

Because they will basically be a laptop.  They will be thick and power hungry devices, complete opposite of what makes the tablets popular. Transformer Prime with its dock lasts around eighteen hours, those x86 hardwares will be lucky to last a quarter of it.