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sperrico87 said:
bouzane said:
I saw some discussion about abortion so I have to make a quick point. A friend of mine pointed out the fact that the Bible states that life is in the blood and that there is no blood in the fetus until the start of the second trimester. I tried to confirm this independently but my Google-fu is weak. :/


The Bible states of LOT of things.  Best not to get into all of that. If we're to do everything the Bible says, life would be a lot different than what it is today.  So let's not pick and choose which little sentences to follow and then ignore others that we don't agree with.


Either ignore the Old Testament or strictly adhere to everything contained therein. I hate cafeteria religions in which people pick and choose what rules they want to follow. Deciding to obey whatever is convenient while ignoring the rest. Even this wouldn't be so bad if these people weren't often so judgmental. Oh well, it's not like the Old Testament has anything to do with the teachings of Christ whatsoever.



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Chrizum said:
sperrico87 said:
bouzane said:
I saw some discussion about abortion so I have to make a quick point. A friend of mine pointed out the fact that the Bible states that life is in the blood and that there is no blood in the fetus until the start of the second trimester. I tried to confirm this independently but my Google-fu is weak. :/


The Bible states of LOT of things.  Best not to get into all of that. If we're to do everything the Bible says, life would be a lot different than what it is today.  So let's not pick and choose which little sentences to follow and then ignore others that we don't agree with.

So you're saying we should ignore the bible entirely?

He's not, but I am.  The bible should be dismissed as an outdated text, just like old science books are.  Hell, science books get outdated after a couple decades, the Bible is over a millenia out of date. It should not be the platform in which anyone dictates their life. 



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bouzane said:
sperrico87 said:
bouzane said:
I saw some discussion about abortion so I have to make a quick point. A friend of mine pointed out the fact that the Bible states that life is in the blood and that there is no blood in the fetus until the start of the second trimester. I tried to confirm this independently but my Google-fu is weak. :/


The Bible states of LOT of things.  Best not to get into all of that. If we're to do everything the Bible says, life would be a lot different than what it is today.  So let's not pick and choose which little sentences to follow and then ignore others that we don't agree with.


Either ignore the Old Testament or strictly adhere to everything contained therein. I hate cafeteria religions in which people pick and choose what rules they want to follow. Deciding to obey whatever is convenient while ignoring the rest. Even this wouldn't be so bad if these people weren't often so judgmental. Oh well, it's not like the Old Testament has anything to do with the teachings of Christ whatsoever.


Ignore it completely, then, otherwise we have racism, bigotry, ignorance, hatred, and slavery to guide us.  Stone your woman!  Kill that gay dude!  KILL ALL WHO DON'T ADHERE TO OUR STRICT AND NONSENSICAL RULES! 

yeah, and you people wonder why I'm so anti-religious. 



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Kangi said:
Signalstar said:
This is the least sexy thread involving porn we've ever had. Unless you count Badgenome, Kitler, and Amp's avatars.

Rick Santorum takes down the sexiness quotient by a substantial amount. Thankfully, I am now here to help raise it.

And it is said, "Don't google santorum, particularly if you are at work".  That should knock the sexiness level down even further.

So, the idea here, if I follow GOP compromised ideology is that corporations can run amok and do massive damage due to greed, go out of business and lay off lots of people, cause polution and poverty (but hey everyone can get a cheap TV), and cause an increase in the divide between rich and poor, BUT the government can go into people's bedrooms and computers and snoop around, making sure people are morally pure?  Hey, maybe they can outlaw divorce also, while they are at it, in order to save money.  Fact most people couldn't live under those condition doesn't matter, there is a country to save.



Esquoret said:
sperrico87 said:

Nah, that's not liberal.  That's LibertarianBig difference.  And Libertarianism was the basis of the Republican Party until it was taken over in the 1960's by the so-called "conservatives".  Myself and others, such as Ron Paul, represent the Old Right, the party of Robert Taft.

Liberals believe in FORCING people to give others what they think they are deserved.  They believe in big, over-reaching government.  Much the way modern conservatives do, just in different areas.  Conservatives believe in a big overseas military empire.  Liberals believe in providing "free" health insurance to everyone, and taxing people without any limit.

Libertarians are quite the opposite.  The smallest government possible is the best government.  No government interference in any markets, for any reason.  Little or no taxation.  Truly free trade.  No aggressive war or military force unless we are under immenent threat and we have no alternative.  Absolutely no regulations on a person's personal behavior or habits, so long at that person isn't harming someone else.

So, I think you're right in that liberals agree with libertarians on a small number of issues such as legalizing drugs, but we are polar opposites on economic or social issues.  We agree typically with Republicans on economics or taxation, but are polar opposites on foreign policy and drug laws.

It might be better if I labeled myself and other pro-life libertarians as "Minarchists".  Not sure if you're familiar with that term or not.  Because, technically speaking, someone who is 100% absolute Libertarian would be pro-abortion.

I do find philosophy fascinating though, so feel free to disagree or agree.  I'll reply.


Hello, fellow Ron Paul supporter! =)

I like to use the Nolan Chart when explaining the differences between political views, such as this one:
http://www.goodandbadnews.com/images/politicalspace1.jpg

It's sad that freedom has been chopped into pieces in the rhetoric of the left- and right-wing advocates. And both the left- and right-wing politicians are converging towards big government philosophies especially for the past few decades. Unified, they truly represent the worst of both parties, and a totalitarian government is closer than ever.

Now, more than ever, is really the time for the libertarian approach to strike a balance - to legalise freedom for the people and limit government power as accordingly in the Constitution!

P.S. This is coming from a Christian who knows of the extremely high moral standards of God, yet knows that it is not through government legislation that these must be enforced upon the people. But rather, it is through the church and the Gospel that these values, which follows the knowledge of God, be promoted (not forced) with love, so that any changes evident in the people/society are from their own willingness within them (and upon the strength given to them by God), and not just an outward compliance due to fear of breaking laws.

The Nolan Chart is excellent (link is above and picture is below).  It does a decent job laying out things (it is not perfect, but it is relatively fair).  Qas for myself, I have gone ending up politically being anarchist (anarcho-capitalist, on the basis of respect for property following what Locke wrote), in that I am really opposed to any coersion of any type for any reason, with affinity for Christian faith and its values.



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bouzane said:
sperrico87 said:
bouzane said:
I saw some discussion about abortion so I have to make a quick point. A friend of mine pointed out the fact that the Bible states that life is in the blood and that there is no blood in the fetus until the start of the second trimester. I tried to confirm this independently but my Google-fu is weak. :/


The Bible states of LOT of things.  Best not to get into all of that. If we're to do everything the Bible says, life would be a lot different than what it is today.  So let's not pick and choose which little sentences to follow and then ignore others that we don't agree with.


Either ignore the Old Testament or strictly adhere to everything contained therein. I hate cafeteria religions in which people pick and choose what rules they want to follow. Deciding to obey whatever is convenient while ignoring the rest. Even this wouldn't be so bad if these people weren't often so judgmental. Oh well, it's not like the Old Testament has anything to do with the teachings of Christ whatsoever.

Christ teachings (my assessment of them at least, and hopefully in keeping with Christian thought) do a summing up of what the Old Testament said, if it operates in a context of people not living in a political theocracy where people don't have control over the rules.  The heart of what the teachings said are what are drived at, particularly from what the prophetic texts of the Old Testament were on.

I do believe also that cafeteria religion is one of the most disrespectful things that can be done.  People should have enough respect to let the religion say what it says and leave it at that.  Of course, there is practical considerations on actually doing it, when faced with conflicting demands, but that doesn't mean one can't respect the religion.  People to use, for example, the Christ and Christianity as an escape pass from Hell, and then go around and selectively pick what they want, and beat those over the head of those who disagree.  They will dogmatically be set to defend something, and then prooftext to justify it.  Doing that is some of the worst things that can be done and does damage to what a religion stands for and thus is one of the most disrespectful things that can be done.



richardhutnik said:
Esquoret said:
sperrico87 said:

 

The Nolan Chart is excellent (link is above and picture is below).  It does a decent job laying out things (it is not perfect, but it is relatively fair).  Qas for myself, I have gone ending up politically being anarchist (anarcho-capitalist, on the basis of respect for property following what Locke wrote), in that I am really opposed to any coersion of any type for any reason, with affinity for Christian faith and its values.

 

Good chart. I like it :)



 

Runa216 said:
Chrizum said:
sperrico87 said:
bouzane said:


The Bible states of LOT of things.  Best not to get into all of that. If we're to do everything the Bible says, life would be a lot different than what it is today.  So let's not pick and choose which little sentences to follow and then ignore others that we don't agree with.

So you're saying we should ignore the bible entirely?

He's not, but I am.  The bible should be dismissed as an outdated text, just like old science books are.  Hell, science books get outdated after a couple decades, the Bible is over a millenia out of date. It should not be the platform in which anyone dictates their life. 

The difference between "outdated science books" and the Bible is that the Bible contains the word of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ.  So, while I'm not willing to completely disagree with your assessment (because I am not a religious person), I wouldn't be so quick to write off the book that billions of people hold as sacred and irreplaceable in their hearts.



 

sperrico87 said:
Runa216 said:
Chrizum said:
sperrico87 said:
bouzane said:


The Bible states of LOT of things.  Best not to get into all of that. If we're to do everything the Bible says, life would be a lot different than what it is today.  So let's not pick and choose which little sentences to follow and then ignore others that we don't agree with.

So you're saying we should ignore the bible entirely?

He's not, but I am.  The bible should be dismissed as an outdated text, just like old science books are.  Hell, science books get outdated after a couple decades, the Bible is over a millenia out of date. It should not be the platform in which anyone dictates their life. 

The difference between "outdated science books" and the Bible is that the Bible contains the word of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ.  So, while I'm not willing to completely disagree with your assessment (because I am not a religious person), I wouldn't be so quick to write off the book that billions of people hold as sacred and irreplaceable in their hearts.

Milllions of people hold the Twilight series close to their hearts and that promotes stalking, abuse, and misogyny.  A Million people can still be wrong. 

Again, I refer to my "if you can prove god exists, then I'll back off" clause.  As long as God is an 'idea' with no tangible evidence supporting his, her, or its presence, then it should be treated as any other outdated or ill-supported theory is: it should be dropped. 



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Runa216 said:
sperrico87 said:
Runa216 said:
Chrizum said:
sperrico87 said:
bouzane said:

 

 



The difference between "outdated science books" and the Bible is that the Bible contains the word of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ.  So, while I'm not willing to completely disagree with your assessment (because I am not a religious person), I wouldn't be so quick to write off the book that billions of people hold as sacred and irreplaceable in their hearts.

Milllions of people hold the Twilight series close to their hearts and that promotes stalking, abuse, and misogyny.  A Million people can still be wrong. 

Again, I refer to my "if you can prove god exists, then I'll back off" clause.  As long as God is an 'idea' with no tangible evidence supporting his, her, or its presence, then it should be treated as any other outdated or ill-supported theory is: it should be dropped. 

I understand your clause, and frankly I agree with you.  My point, though, is that more than half of the earth's population DOES believe in God and his teachings, and so I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to say their beliefs are any more or less valid than my own. We may be wrong, they may be wrong. It's impossible to know.