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NYANKS said:
So I'm assuming the PS2 still has a bit of a lead over the DS, anyone have an idea of which ends up winning? Could PS2 be produced longer than DS?


PS2 has a lead of +-4 million. The way it is going PS2 will still be the best selling gaming machine ever.



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Turkish said:
NYANKS said:
So I'm assuming the PS2 still has a bit of a lead over the DS, anyone have an idea of which ends up winning? Could PS2 be produced longer than DS?


PS2 has a lead of +-4 million. The way it is going PS2 will still be the best selling gaming machine ever.

That would be great, so many people on this site would have been wrong on that count.  Long live the King!



Discussion of numbers will go back up once the new generation releases.
Sales discussions really just aren't that fun without some real change happening in the arena, and ps3 had bluray, and everyone thought they knew what sales were and who was winning and who was losing etc etc.
Now that it's been 6 years in, people are starting to look at the sales arena and see that things really aren't going to change much.
PS3 is flirting with 360 sales, taking roughly 50k of the gap back every week, but at that pace it's not going to catch 360. I think people have pretty much come to accept that ps3 will be third place, 360 will be second and wii will be first.
Next gen, when there are three new consoles out, THEN we will have sales to argue about, but right now, it's pretty stale, because the sales are stale.



RazoDigimax said:
haxxiy said:
On the PSV defense, Sony is probably making more profit with the 113k units than Nintendo with the 3DS at 179k :P


I thought it was assumed that Sony is taking a loss on every system sold; that's why people say that Sony can't cut the price yet...

Taking a loss on every system sold, sure... But with the expensive memory cards that you HAVE to use? These "loss" became a lot low.



theprof00 said:
Discussion of numbers will go back up once the new generation releases.
Sales discussions really just aren't that fun without some real change happening in the arena, and ps3 had bluray, and everyone thought they knew what sales were and who was winning and who was losing etc etc.
Now that it's been 6 years in, people are starting to look at the sales arena and see that things really aren't going to change much.
PS3 is flirting with 360 sales, taking roughly 50k of the gap back every week, but at that pace it's not going to catch 360. I think people have pretty much come to accept that ps3 will be third place, 360 will be second and wii will be first.
Next gen, when there are three new consoles out, THEN we will have sales to argue about, but right now, it's pretty stale, because the sales are stale.


Not exactly, PS3 has been closing the gap ever since 2009, before PS3 Slim came out the gap was almost 9 million. Its now 2.8 million, its just a matter of time before PS3 catches up. And before you start that it wont matter, yes it does, people do care, for a failed doomed machine to turn the tables, people are already discussing if PS3 will reach 100 million in a couple of years.



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Turkish said:
theprof00 said:
Discussion of numbers will go back up once the new generation releases.
Sales discussions really just aren't that fun without some real change happening in the arena, and ps3 had bluray, and everyone thought they knew what sales were and who was winning and who was losing etc etc.
Now that it's been 6 years in, people are starting to look at the sales arena and see that things really aren't going to change much.
PS3 is flirting with 360 sales, taking roughly 50k of the gap back every week, but at that pace it's not going to catch 360. I think people have pretty much come to accept that ps3 will be third place, 360 will be second and wii will be first.
Next gen, when there are three new consoles out, THEN we will have sales to argue about, but right now, it's pretty stale, because the sales are stale.


Not exactly, PS3 has been closing the gap ever since 2009, before PS3 Slim came out the gap was almost 9 million. Its now 2.8 million, its just a matter of time before PS3 catches up. And before you start that it wont matter, yes it does, people do care, for a failed doomed machine to turn the tables, people are already discussing if PS3 will reach 100 million in a couple of years.

Well don't be confused, I'd be excited if it happened, but last year ps3 outsold 360 almost the entire year, and then came Christmas.

This year, 360 is definitely going to get a price reduction and it's going to be the same shit all over again. PS3 had a price reduction last year, and now the gap in price is going to be exactly as it was before. This is not a good thing. Really ps3 is going to need that versus 13 to be exclusive and get that new god of war, and just something, because it isn't exactly going to blow the roof off with the lineup this year, imo.

PS3 is going to need a way to compete over Christmas, otherwise it's just going to be the same thing all over again.



theprof00 said:
Turkish said:
theprof00 said:
Discussion of numbers will go back up once the new generation releases.
Sales discussions really just aren't that fun without some real change happening in the arena, and ps3 had bluray, and everyone thought they knew what sales were and who was winning and who was losing etc etc.
Now that it's been 6 years in, people are starting to look at the sales arena and see that things really aren't going to change much.
PS3 is flirting with 360 sales, taking roughly 50k of the gap back every week, but at that pace it's not going to catch 360. I think people have pretty much come to accept that ps3 will be third place, 360 will be second and wii will be first.
Next gen, when there are three new consoles out, THEN we will have sales to argue about, but right now, it's pretty stale, because the sales are stale.


Not exactly, PS3 has been closing the gap ever since 2009, before PS3 Slim came out the gap was almost 9 million. Its now 2.8 million, its just a matter of time before PS3 catches up. And before you start that it wont matter, yes it does, people do care, for a failed doomed machine to turn the tables, people are already discussing if PS3 will reach 100 million in a couple of years.

Well don't be confused, I'd be excited if it happened, but last year ps3 outsold 360 almost the entire year, and then came Christmas.

This year, 360 is definitely going to get a price reduction and it's going to be the same shit all over again. PS3 had a price reduction last year, and now the gap in price is going to be exactly as it was before. This is not a good thing. Really ps3 is going to need that versus 13 to be exclusive and get that new god of war, and just something, because it isn't exactly going to blow the roof off with the lineup this year, imo.

PS3 is going to need a way to compete over Christmas, otherwise it's just going to be the same thing all over again.

GAP End of 2010: 4.2 million
GAP End of 2011: 3.5 million

PS3 closed the GAP by 700k last year.

Today GAP: 2.9 million



ethomaz said:
theprof00 said:
Turkish said:
theprof00 said:
Discussion of numbers will go back up once the new generation releases.
Sales discussions really just aren't that fun without some real change happening in the arena, and ps3 had bluray, and everyone thought they knew what sales were and who was winning and who was losing etc etc.
Now that it's been 6 years in, people are starting to look at the sales arena and see that things really aren't going to change much.
PS3 is flirting with 360 sales, taking roughly 50k of the gap back every week, but at that pace it's not going to catch 360. I think people have pretty much come to accept that ps3 will be third place, 360 will be second and wii will be first.
Next gen, when there are three new consoles out, THEN we will have sales to argue about, but right now, it's pretty stale, because the sales are stale.


Not exactly, PS3 has been closing the gap ever since 2009, before PS3 Slim came out the gap was almost 9 million. Its now 2.8 million, its just a matter of time before PS3 catches up. And before you start that it wont matter, yes it does, people do care, for a failed doomed machine to turn the tables, people are already discussing if PS3 will reach 100 million in a couple of years.

Well don't be confused, I'd be excited if it happened, but last year ps3 outsold 360 almost the entire year, and then came Christmas.

This year, 360 is definitely going to get a price reduction and it's going to be the same shit all over again. PS3 had a price reduction last year, and now the gap in price is going to be exactly as it was before. This is not a good thing. Really ps3 is going to need that versus 13 to be exclusive and get that new god of war, and just something, because it isn't exactly going to blow the roof off with the lineup this year, imo.

PS3 is going to need a way to compete over Christmas, otherwise it's just going to be the same thing all over again.

GAP End of 2010: 4.2 million
GAP End of 2011: 3.5 million

PS3 closed the GAP by 700k last year.

Today GAP: 2.9 million

Yeah, but that took a whole YEAR mang.
I just don't know if Sony can manage to outsell it again. The year before it outsold by a lot more, now it's smaller, this time what? 150k?

The only chance is that kinect fizzles out or all the people who wanted one bought one already, cuz you KNOW that target is going to be having those really unfair deals of like 50$ 360 with kinect, or walmart with kinect360 with 200$ giftcard, or kinect package for 150$ with every game.

PS3 will be lucky to have one free game, or 25$ off.

That's how it's been this whole time. 2 Years ago, walmart was like giving away 360s for free through incentives. Sony just can't compete with that.



theprof00 said:
ethomaz said:
theprof00 said:
Turkish said:
theprof00 said:
Discussion of numbers will go back up once the new generation releases.
Sales discussions really just aren't that fun without some real change happening in the arena, and ps3 had bluray, and everyone thought they knew what sales were and who was winning and who was losing etc etc.
Now that it's been 6 years in, people are starting to look at the sales arena and see that things really aren't going to change much.
PS3 is flirting with 360 sales, taking roughly 50k of the gap back every week, but at that pace it's not going to catch 360. I think people have pretty much come to accept that ps3 will be third place, 360 will be second and wii will be first.
Next gen, when there are three new consoles out, THEN we will have sales to argue about, but right now, it's pretty stale, because the sales are stale.


Not exactly, PS3 has been closing the gap ever since 2009, before PS3 Slim came out the gap was almost 9 million. Its now 2.8 million, its just a matter of time before PS3 catches up. And before you start that it wont matter, yes it does, people do care, for a failed doomed machine to turn the tables, people are already discussing if PS3 will reach 100 million in a couple of years.

Well don't be confused, I'd be excited if it happened, but last year ps3 outsold 360 almost the entire year, and then came Christmas.

This year, 360 is definitely going to get a price reduction and it's going to be the same shit all over again. PS3 had a price reduction last year, and now the gap in price is going to be exactly as it was before. This is not a good thing. Really ps3 is going to need that versus 13 to be exclusive and get that new god of war, and just something, because it isn't exactly going to blow the roof off with the lineup this year, imo.

PS3 is going to need a way to compete over Christmas, otherwise it's just going to be the same thing all over again.

GAP End of 2010: 4.2 million
GAP End of 2011: 3.5 million

PS3 closed the GAP by 700k last year.

Today GAP: 2.9 million

Yeah, but that took a whole YEAR mang.
I just don't know if Sony can manage to outsell it again. The year before it outsold by a lot more, now it's smaller, this time what? 150k?

The only chance is that kinect fizzles out or all the people who wanted one bought one already, cuz you KNOW that target is going to be having those really unfair deals of like 50$ 360 with kinect, or walmart with kinect360 with 200$ giftcard, or kinect package for 150$ with every game.

PS3 will be lucky to have one free game, or 25$ off.

That's how it's been this whole time. 2 Years ago, walmart was like giving away 360s for free through incentives. Sony just can't compete with that.

This year gap is bigger than last year gap... it's already 600k... so if Sony can put over 1.5 million before Holidays then the GAP for 2012 will be more than 700k.



ethomaz said:

This year gap is bigger than last year gap... it's already 600k... so if Sony can put over 1.5 million before Holidays then the GAP for 2012 will be more than 700k.

What was the week to week gap as of jan-march last year? 300k? 400?