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Democracy > Monarchy... but:

Is democracy really a democracy?

In Canada, once you have voted for a party, your job is done. The governement will vote the laws in the parliament and the canadians can't do anything!

The population should vote everything that concern them. We all believe this is democracy but it's not. At least not a FULL democracy.



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However in a country of more then 100 people, having a poll on every issue would be a pain and not practical.

I believe that a govt gets the support of the people and forms govt it should be able to act in the way it thinks it right.

This may seem bad, however this is how govt was in the past in Canada/US and it was much better.

These days people ignore the fact that somebody won a mandate and try to undermine or put a roadblock. The people are usually the people that lost and cannot acknowledge they lost.

I hear so many stories about opposition groups getting angry and instead of winning over support in an election, fight silly court cases or trying putting in roadblocks.

This is not about freedom and democracy, but it instead has made things very partisan, that now no side can agree to fix anything.

So that is why I perfer Majority govts, as it brings in stability and frankly stability is something we need.



Gilmour said:
Democracy > Monarchy... but:

Is democracy really a democracy?

In Canada, once you have voted for a party, your job is done. The governement will vote the laws in the parliament and the canadians can't do anything!

The population should vote everything that concern them. We all believe this is democracy but it's not. At least not a FULL democracy.


They did this in Ancient Athens, and there was chaos. People would go and vote for one thing one week, and reverse it the next.

They would vote for war, send off the ships, and reverse the vote the next week, and send off other ships to catch up with the first set of ships.



It reads like you are confusing Monarchy with Empire. British Empire is what made it strong and the loss of said Empire is slowly weakening it. We used to have many places to supply our country with resources. We no longer have this. All the countries you listed were benefited by the Empire and slowly either broke free, given it or aren't tied down as much as they used to be. They have remained strong since.

This is my take anyway. You also mentioned that certain countries are important or wealth creators, think Germany and Japan might argue against that.

Hong Kong is not independent now, it's part of China.



Hmm, pie.

The British Empire was broken up by free trade agreements and other such things by capitalists. Not always for the benefit of the populations, but more so for the benefit of corporations.

Anyway, one example of a Monarchy that works very well right now is that of Jordan; a Middle Eastern nation with poor amounts of resources (no oil), and are developing a thriving nation under a King and Queen who happen to be Star Trek fans.



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Ask the United States of America what they thought of the British Monarchy in the late 18th century. Taxes on Tea leaves, lead to the American War for Independence in the 1770s.

The Monarch is the head of state under a modern democracy: the Queen or King has little or no say in the running of the government. The representative of the monarch: Governor-General can force a democratically elected Prime Minister to resign from office. Monarchs of today are nothing like the Queens and Kings of the past, they are just fancy dressed heads of state with limited powers.

No longer does a Monarch in a democratic country have a big say in the making of laws and the running of the country. A parliament is elected by the people for the people and changes based on what the people decide upon at election time. The Queen plays a role as head of state and is only for show. The Royals do get a lot of perks, security and attend functions all at tax payers expense. Commonwealth countries are former nations owned and controlled by the British Empire/Royal Family. Most of the Commonwealth nations retain the British Monarch(currently Elizabeth 2) as their Head of State.



Jumpin said:
The British Empire was broken up by free trade agreements and other such things by capitalists. Not always for the benefit of the populations, but more so for the benefit of corporations.

Anyway, one example of a Monarchy that works very well right now is that of Jordan; a Middle Eastern nation with poor amounts of resources (no oil), and are developing a thriving nation under a King and Queen who happen to be Star Trek fans.


The 50 or 60 countries of the Commonwealth were granted their freedom as a result of the British Empire borrowing a lot of money from fighting Germany in two prolonged Great wars to end all wars. It took UK 40+ years to repay its debt plus interest owing to the Banks for the costs of World War 2.  



After WW1 and WW2 the British were running on empty really compared to the past.

 

 

About Monarchy I think it depends, the way the Queen has acted is what people expect of Monarch's today and it is why she still remains quite more respected then our poliitcans. Its quite interesting,Support for the the Queen is at its highest levels in Canada, Australia and the UK since the 1980 and before.

 

I think its because the whole Dianna factor has finally worn off, and the Queen is becoming old and Will-Kate. Plus the media have been more friendly and films like the Queen and the The Kings Speech...

 

However dark times are ahead with the sucessor...Most of the support is because of the Queen...

In Canada I expect a huge debate over Prince Charles becoming King.