| NoCtiS_NoX said:
1. I thought Stefl was rolefishing spurge. You also think he was. I told myself I need more evidence maybe stefl thought spurge is mafia and trying to make him slip. Start of day 2 Spurge flipped town-mason. Stefl posted random things like he was visited. OK this is weird and then I remember the convo between stefl and spurge so I look it up and then Rad postedthat "He thinks it's not wise for the mason to claim because it will be an open target". Stefl responded with "it's ok for the mason to claim because of blah blah" so I am getting the feeling that he was really rolefishing so I tried to ask him what he meant by that post and then prof qouted me(rolefishing) and I clarified that "I think he got me wrong here and I want to ask stefl if he is admitting of some kind of a role". After that stefl answered it but the weird thing is I was the one who asked the question but he opted to respond to Prof so maybe I am just letting my paranoid self took over that I think they are making fake convo and making themselves look town. This was not the only reason I think they were scum buddies it already srpung from day 1. I am tired to put up links so look that for yourself. I also didn't buy his argument. I felt he is trying to pinned you down as a scum.
Anyways, I don't know why are so insistent on this subject. i really don't have clue anymore and I am getting annoyed that I have to repeat myself over over again. Why do you think it's not possible that I think stefl is rolefishing without this mafia tracker? Are you the mafia tracker? Because it's only logical if you are or maybe you really are the mafia blocker? And you did block stefl? And you want me think that having mafia blocker is not possible or maybe you just protecting prof because you want to prove it to me that my suspcious of prof is illogical w/o this variables.
2. Isn't this about the rolefishing? Did I already back it up with links I provided? If not then please elaborate since I have been responding with You, FF and Prof. It's hard talking with 3 of you at the same time with the 3 of you asking different question.
4. Just got a vibe from it. You also think he is going buddy buddy with you right?
5. The language barrier is really killing me here. Anyways, Day 1 stefl is one of your suspect he was no. 1. post, post, post and moreno replaced him and with how bad stefl handled the situation. I think you are gonna vote for him since he was one of you suspects but if you were a scum seeing stefl confirmed he has a role then voting for stelf is a waste. Lynching him will not only garner attention and it will be a miss oppurtunity to target another townie. Of course this not directed only to you but scums in here general. Maybe we have different views over with. It looks like I can't convince you that maybe one or two of the voters there sees an oppurtunity when you voted for baalz. I am town so in my perspective there will scummies in there. I tried to link the stefl and Baalz situation. The 3 of you that was involved in stefl and baalz. I also don't want to limit myself to the three of you that's why opening up the possiblity of a chell and cube combo because unlike you I won't ever dismiss that Wonk is mafia even if I feel he is town. I want the others to know the possiblity of it.
6. A parrallel situation that I think there was a 3rd party and Didn't you also voted for me? You aslo said you want me dead and as a 3rd party it's beneficial for you if I got lynch. Please don't contradict yourself.
So like in this thread. Enlighten me with the parrellels that don't exist that you speak of.
Your PS: My intention was from the start is to see how guys will react because stefl flipping town shattered all my theory about him so I am back to square 1. stefl was my primary suspect followed by Prof but since stefl flipped town I have to re-evaluate. I tried to get a response from you guys with my first post but obviously a lot of you ignored it then I started with my big post then I got what I want. A lot responses.
My own PS: If you are a townie. Why am I not surprised that you think me as a scum. Oh yeah! You have bad habit of thinking I am always scum.
If you are a scum. You want me dead more than anything else because I am very active right now.
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1. I did think he was. I also thought he was rolefishing http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4437807. I mentioned that I thought these things the day they occured. Why didn't you mention anything about Stefl/prof day two? Why would you only mention it today when it's proven impossible?
My whole line of questioning has been more about why you think prof, FF, or I should have voted Stefl rather than Baalz. The only thing you've come up with is that mafia would not want to put their vote on town power.(Though I've also explained why it doesn't make sense for scum to just let go of Stefl) You know who doesn't want to lynch possible town power? Town.
Are you even thinking about what you're saying anymore? IF Stefl were scum, he can't rolefish without actual knowledge that he was targeted at night. Being roleblocked obviously tells him that, but what you say you thought Stefl AND prof were doing would require them to have tracked/watched/whatever you/someone else targeting Stefl. Otherwise who says "Derp, I'm Town Moron, but I didn't target you Stefl, guuuuh". And eventually(not necessarily day 2) when claims come about and nobody claims to have targeted Stefl, he gets lynched for lying.
So I'm Mafia Tracker now? Which would mean I followed my scumbuddy roleblocker to his target. I guess I wanted to make sure he wasn't lying to me? Or maybe it's a town roleblocker/jailkeepey that I followed, which is tougher to refute because I would have to look back at day 2 and see what everyone seemed to be thinking to show that it would be more prudent to kill the protection that could block my scan or our team's kill than whatever Stefl was. Far too much effort for no gain, since I'm not mafia nor a tracker.
Mafia blocker is just dumb, because with all the suspicion Stefl had I could just block him "again", and watch the mislynch occur. There's no reason to risk killing him when he could be protected.
I said some of your argument for prof is valid. It's the Stefl AND prof stuff that I said was illogical, even ignoring Stefl flipping town.
2. You made none of these points(about suspecting Stefl or prof) yesterday, when it actually mattered. It's easy to say you were thinking just about anything then, but nothing backs it up.
4. He's been following me on the lynches, but I haven't had the time to look into whether it's indicitave of him being scum or not. I did not get the impression FF was defending me though, because Stefl's reasoning was illogical. It's something I'd have done if I was around and Stefl had named anyone else besides me instead.
5. I see your point now, but as I said here town doesn't want to lynch possible town power either. His claim of being blocked gave everyone a legitimate reason not to vote him regardless of alignment. I don't think you'll find anything by focusing on people not voting for Stefl. In the end it just has more to do with people voting for Baalz.
6. Wait, you think there's a 3rd party here? I haven't voted you once this game. You are one of my top suspects now, which does not equate to me wanting you dead. Let me spell it out again
practice round. I NEED you lynched in order to have a chance of winning.
now. If I were mafia and you were town, I DON'T need you lynched in order to have a chance of winning. In fact the only way it's a parallel is if you are scum here.
Yes, it was a bad habit of mine, which is why I didn't focus on you earlier in the game. Now, considering my opionion of Wonk and prof(and radish of course) there's greater than a 50% chance that you are scum and I'm not just seeing things incorrectly.
I'm not scum, but that's stupid as I would want any townie dead.
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