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Stefl1504 said:
No, but I think the one blocking me was scum, and well... I think that the one who blocked me already knew that I had a power, because... well, one could read it from yesterdays behaviour... that is also why I asked for people who were suspicious of me... well... I think the roleblocker... is in both cases (scum or not) linkz, which leads me to believe that we either have no doc (or our doc is a jailkeeper, which means that it isn't linkz and there isn't a roleblocker), or if we have one linkz is scum and his power is that of a typical roleblocker... and finally, I am inclined to believe that my power is not reliable...


Well... actually that's why I asked for other people who where suspicious of me but that didn't bother anyone... so I can't be that sure of linkz, but I am going now with the linkz is the only one to distrust me... also I thought of... something like... I am probably dead tommorow so let town know there is some kind of roleblocker out there...



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Stefl1504 said:
No, but I think the one blocking me was scum, and well... I think that the one who blocked me already knew that I had a power, because... well, one could read it from yesterdays behaviour... that is also why I asked for people who were suspicious of me... well... I think the roleblocker... is in both cases (scum or not) linkz, which leads me to believe that we either have no doc (or our doc is a jailkeeper, which means that it isn't linkz and there isn't a roleblocker), or if we have one linkz is scum and his power is that of a typical roleblocker... and finally, I am inclined to believe that my power is not reliable...

Well, I think it was unfortunate that you spilled the beans for that reason, as you could have hoped whoever blocked you would just move on to a more appealing target if you had said nothing.  I don't believe it's likely anyone could know for a fact by Night 1 that you had a power, they could only suspect, and they might come to suspect someone else more.  However, if it's town that did it, then it would make sense to appeal to them to block someone else if you want to use the power, though if it's a jailkeeper then there's no doc and you're in great danger as a power role. 

I don't know why you are SO convinced that Linkz is the one who blocked you regardless of his alignment, but whatever.  What REALLY confuses me is how you conclude that if the one who blocked you is a jailkeeper then that somehow proves that it wasn't Linkz after all.  I just have no idea how you could possibly have reached these conclusions.  Please elaborate. 



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Stefl1504 said:
No, but I think the one blocking me was scum, and well... I think that the one who blocked me already knew that I had a power, because... well, one could read it from yesterdays behaviour... that is also why I asked for people who were suspicious of me... well... I think the roleblocker... is in both cases (scum or not) linkz, which leads me to believe that we either have no doc (or our doc is a jailkeeper, which means that it isn't linkz and there isn't a roleblocker), or if we have one linkz is scum and his power is that of a typical roleblocker... and finally, I am inclined to believe that my power is not reliable...

Except maybe scum was just guessing, and you've now confirmed it.

Or maybe you WERE blocked by a jailkeeper and now you've outed to the mafia that town has a roleblocker, or jailkeeper, so in addition to you now being a good target for nightkill, you've also let mafia know that there is a roleblocker.

Unless it IS a mafia roleblocker, in which case, you've still made yourself a target.

 

Also, "I am inclined to believe that my power is not reliable..." not reliable? You just said that you were roleblocked. How can you theorize that your power isn't reliable when you shouldn't have any tested results?



Oh, your other post gave me a hint as to what you might have been thinking, but I want to hear you say it.



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theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
No, but I think the one blocking me was scum, and well... I think that the one who blocked me already knew that I had a power, because... well, one could read it from yesterdays behaviour... that is also why I asked for people who were suspicious of me... well... I think the roleblocker... is in both cases (scum or not) linkz, which leads me to believe that we either have no doc (or our doc is a jailkeeper, which means that it isn't linkz and there isn't a roleblocker), or if we have one linkz is scum and his power is that of a typical roleblocker... and finally, I am inclined to believe that my power is not reliable...

Except maybe scum was just guessing, and you've now confirmed it.

Or maybe you WERE blocked by a jailkeeper and now you've outed to the mafia that town has a roleblocker, or jailkeeper, so in addition to you now being a good target for nightkill, you've also let mafia know that there is a roleblocker.

Unless it IS a mafia roleblocker, in which case, you've still made yourself a target.

 

Also, "I am inclined to believe that my power is not reliable..." not reliable? You just said that you were roleblocked. How can you theorize that your power isn't reliable when you shouldn't have any tested results?

Well yes, I have made myself a target, that was one of many things that were in my intention... my power being not reliable is highly speculative, and yes I don't know if it's not reliable... but being blocked... well yeah...

@FF

Well I was thinking that linkz voicing his suspicion and then roleblocking me at night fits perfectly together if he is town and when he gets tracked/watched f good evidence that he actually wanted to visit me to know who I am, now that is play I can imagine him pulling off... both of it...

Well I would consider a Mafia Roleblocker being the most likely thing out there... next to the Jailkeeper...



Question for ya Prof.

I know Day 1 was getting to be rather long, but I don't think I have ever seen you rushing people to end the day, and that is sort of a vibe I got from you. Were you really that excited for night? And don't try telling me you weren't pushing people to end the day, or I will find the posts and quote every one of them.



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Baalzamon said:
Question for ya Prof.

I know Day 1 was getting to be rather long, but I don't think I have ever seen you rushing people to end the day, and that is sort of a vibe I got from you. Were you really that excited for night? And don't try telling me you weren't pushing people to end the day, or I will find the posts and quote every one of them.

We had reached really an impasse. I didn't want to vote moreno and then I did, and then I didn't etc etc.

I was actually pushing to extend the day to wait for more input from people (for example, you) and then when we got it, that seemed to be really all teh conversation that was going to be had.

I don't think it's a big deal and I wasn't excited for night either because I expected to die with all the attention I got. If there was any rushing I was doing, it was to get through to the next day. 



I guess that is the exact answer I was expecting, just thought it was worth asking to see if you would answer differently.



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Stefl1504 said:
Linkzmax said:
I can only remember one or two times(not sure if it was two different games or only one) when I quickly thought you were town. You've just admitted to lurking so that goes against the behavior of the one time. And I don't want to give away the tell so you can use it in future games, but there's something I don't think you'd ever do as scum. If you had done it this game I'd be putting you as town again.

Haha... I can only think of acting like a crazy bitch... well, yes, I am lurking, but so is the other ~80% of the remaining players, the problem is that with nobody posting there is nothing to post on and so we enter a vicious circle... also let me tell you that fortuna is on the side of the scum team... and thats one thing I hate.

Your lurking is generally a sign of mafia or vanilla townie, and since it's been brought up, the latter was ruled out with your first post of the day. I liked the post too, to use your words it's a bit crazy and made me think scum, which is why I haven't been after you. But the rational side of me says you could still be scum power trying to hide behind the fact that a kill still went through. And to come full circle the lurking plays on that feeling.

I'm not really getting all of your roleblocked arguments though. I was suspicious of you, so blocking you would make me scum, but also means I'm town?