Next up Noctic. He's has very few posts as well.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4439344

First he just checks in and says he's a machine.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/reply.php?id=140361&quote=4439468

In his second post he doesn't want to vote or rush things and comments on spurge being quiet. Now this is before FF has posted at all and metal gear has only posted 4 times that really didn't have much content. After spurge had posted 5 times (although not much content)and once again on Noctis's second post.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4440466

Third post he's responding mostly to Spurge's response. He's accusing him of being over defensive when, in reality spurge asked a good question. Since Noc was focusing on him and ignoring other players.

Noc does have a good point when he mentions that spurge shouldn't be saying he thinks noctic is town. Noctis had only made 2 posts.

When he addresses me he doesn't realize he's missing my point from this post.  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4440252

He reiterates that he doesn't want to rush things. When my point was more about him calling out spruge for activity when he hasn't being posting himself.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4440471

When everyone else had answered my question of course moreno was going to answer quickly there was then enormous pressure for him to answer. I don't think that itself is fishy.

His "observation" isn't even right. He accuses linkz of being one of the people who didn't want to claim. (he at least acknowledges that links responded quickly)

What he missed was that linkz has thought that discussing what roles could be scum was bad, not saying if you are human, machine or other. Linkz could have said that right when I fist asked.

He then FOS's moreno and that's his last post.

With how focused he was on spurge at first I'm surprised he didn't FOS then. He doesn't want to rush but he's not participating much. Asking many questions or sharing opinions about much of what is going on.

HOS: Noctis

Metal gear. He's had 5 posts this game. 1 receiving his PM 1 a generic response for what he'll do today. 1 question about flavor 1 answering my question and the final one being a poorly worded question to one of moreno's odd statements.

HOS MG

I'm a bit surprised by your lack of any reaction towards Noctis as well in your Noctis/spurge observation/analysis

so from 2 posts you concluded he was town?

FOS on spurge for focusing too mcuh on things from older games and unable to form opinions of anyone this game.

I've been playing a lot of EVE Online lately and I've been following the thread in the in-game browser, but maybe that splits my attention too much (away from this game). But I am not ducking the thread, I just don't see that much that arouses suspicion. I mean stuff is happening here, yeah, but nobody is setting off my radar. I am pretty dozy right now but later today, or tomorrow, I'll reread the thread to see if anything stands out.

As you pointed out, there's far too much lurking. It's hard to say much of anything about those guys with so little to go off of.

I have a bad habit of always thinking Noctis is scum, but the biggest thing I didn't like is him making me out to have refused to claim, but I was waiting to see if he would push it further or if anyone would harp on that before disproving it with my post which warned against character claims. Your request narrowed options for people in a way that I didn't think would be too dangerous.

MG is a major lurker in most games. It's not wholly telling of his alignment.

FF has gotten hit or miss with his activity. It's easy for most to percieve radish as scum, but I'm glad I got him to unvote for someone I "know"(90+%) to be town though. It would be nice if he could find that contradictory statement from moreno, though his not jumping on the popular candidate again makes me feel slightly better about him.

If I were to vote any of the inactives it would likely be Noctis. His line about me feels like manipulation rather than misunderstanding, and what you bring up about him ignoring FF and MG to point out spurge is quiet makes me think he could be instructing a teammate to not be lurking. That would also explain spurge quickly trying to deflect the attention by calling Noctis town for no reason.

I already explained why these two statements don't jive together.

"Well, I think it'd be beneficial if we analyze Portal's characters.
There are very few characters, and apart from Wheatley and a turret, I wonder who could be Mafia." here

"I think telling whether you are human or machine can be pretty dangerous in a game with so little characters." here

moreno's explanation "Well, I wanted to analyze possible Mafia characters, but I didn't want townies or power roles to accidentally reveal themselves with a dangerous claim." doesn't add up to me either. Firstly, if scum have obviously bad characters then why would they claim them? Secondly, what's the point of figuring out who is likely Mafia if you're not going to try to use that information? Basically I think the first statement was meant to find out if it would be okay to nameclaim truthfully or if a fakeclaim would be needed.

Furthermore and more importantly, NEITHER statement makes sense if you're really an unnamed/Homeless Test Subject and think that other humans aren't named either. From your point of view Portal characters aren't actually used, and claiming human or machine wouldn't matter because everyone is probably a generic test subject.

Okay... I have had my head votals totally wrong... I thought moreno was at l-2 before I unvoted him ... once again:

Vote: moreno

I'm glad you continued the pace on moreno. I was interested in seeing what you'd do, but it wasn't my intention to drop attention on him. I was busy today, and thinking about IRL things. While walking around doing errands, I was wondering if you were actually mafia just siding with what I was saying (in the case the moreno was beyond saving), but you picking up the pace says town to me (if he actually does turn up mafia).

Anyhoo,yes, I agree it's illogical to want to analyze characters when he wasn't even a character himself.

Righting an oversight and putting my vote:
vote:moreno

I applaud you for targeting the 3 lurkers including myself.

Anyway, just so you guys know. I haven't played portal yet.