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Forums - Sales - MS/360 VS Sony/PS3 Oct-Dec 2011 (With Recent Sony Q3 Report)

sales2099 on 02 February 2012

Whether your bias or not, its on most of our minds. The great rivalry continues. Behold the Oct-Dec performance of MS and Sony!

1. Microsoft Profit as a whole company: 6.62 Billion
2. Xbox Division Profit: 528 Million
3. 360 shipments: 8.2 million
4. January to December 2011 - 14.9m 360 Shipped, YOY increase from 2010. 
5. Lifetime 360 Shipments = 65.8 Million


1. Sony Profit as a whole company: 2.038 Billion LOSS
2. PS Division Profit: 1.1 billion LOSS
3. PS3 Shipments: 6.5 million
4. January to December 2011 - 14.1m PS3 Shipped, YOY decrease from 2010. 
5. Lifetime PS3 Shipments - 62 Million

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/88773/sony-ships-65m-ps3s-in-q4-11-to-lose-29b-in-fy-lowers-ps3-fcst/

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/88735/microsoft-ships-record-82m-x360s-in-dec-q-edd-profits-528m/

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/19/microsoft-announces-q2-earnings-record-20-9-billion-in-revenue/

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6349633.html



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tonymarraffa on 02 February 2012

As an owner of all three systems I have no bias. I just wanna say alot of people are eating crow right now!!!



ethomaz on 02 February 2012

Fixed.

4. January to December 2011 - 14.9m 360 Shipped



sales2099 on 02 February 2012
ethomaz said:

Fixed.

4. January to December 2011 - 14.9m 360 Shipped

lol ok. 



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sales2099 on 02 February 2012

I personally can't believe 360 won 2011. I seriosuly, seriously thought 360 would be last place by the end of it. PS3 exclusive, the price cut, and Europe/Japan edge would surely put PS3 over the top.

Guess NA and Kinect were bigger factors then any of us expected.



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Panama on 02 February 2012

VGChartz seems rather accurate with its PS3 and 360 sales numbers, I'm impressed.

Did Wii numbers really drop off because of the Wii U announcement? The standard consumer would be oblivious to the fact the Wii U is even in development.



Panama on 02 February 2012
sales2099 said:
I personally can't believe 360 won 2011. I seriosuly, seriously thought 360 would be last place by the end of it. PS3 exclusive, the price cut, and Europe/Japan edge would surely put PS3 over the top.

Guess NA and Kinect were bigger factors then any of us expected.

US is arguably the largest videogame market, and in that market the Microsoft brand is its strongest at the moment. So I'm not that surprised. Considering a good portion of those units were Kinect bundles, it seems Microsoft have now struck gold like Nintendo once did by tapping into that casual gamer market goldmine. I just hope they don't alienate the core and find a good balance.



sales2099 on 02 February 2012
Panama said:
sales2099 said:
I personally can't believe 360 won 2011. I seriosuly, seriously thought 360 would be last place by the end of it. PS3 exclusive, the price cut, and Europe/Japan edge would surely put PS3 over the top.

Guess NA and Kinect were bigger factors then any of us expected.

US is arguably the largest videogame market, and in that market the Microsoft brand is its strongest at the moment. So I'm not that surprised. Considering a good portion of those units were Kinect bundles, it seems Microsoft have now struck gold like Nintendo once did by tapping into that casual gamer market goldmine. I just hope they don't alienate the core and find a good balance.


And people say NA /= world. 

It isn't...but it sure is the biggest and most relevant part of it (from a gaming sense). 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 02 February 2012
ethomaz said:

Fixed.

4. January to December 2011 - 14.9m 360 Shipped

Wait whoa. Just noticed.

360 sold more YOY and PS3 actually undersold YOY???? wow



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

MaulerX on 02 February 2012
sales2099 said:
Panama said:
sales2099 said:
I personally can't believe 360 won 2011. I seriosuly, seriously thought 360 would be last place by the end of it. PS3 exclusive, the price cut, and Europe/Japan edge would surely put PS3 over the top.

Guess NA and Kinect were bigger factors then any of us expected.

US is arguably the largest videogame market, and in that market the Microsoft brand is its strongest at the moment. So I'm not that surprised. Considering a good portion of those units were Kinect bundles, it seems Microsoft have now struck gold like Nintendo once did by tapping into that casual gamer market goldmine. I just hope they don't alienate the core and find a good balance.


And people say NA /= world. 

It isn't...but it sure is the biggest and most relevant part of it (from a gaming sense). 

 

I agree. People always say that the US does not equal the world, but... there is no question that the US is the biggest market for videogames and controlling said market dramatically improves your chances of controlling the world. What's even more midblowing is the thought that the 360 could have probably still won the year if you substract it's Japan sales.