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NintendoPie said: I think we should wait till Wii U gets some trailers but from this list The Last of Us and The Last Guardian.

I think the Wii U is unlikely to be a contendor for best because launch games rarely show off everything a console can do.  Perhaps if it was a massive jump up from the current consoles then it would be likely that the first games coming out on it can compete with the later games on the last generation, but I don't see it as likely in this situation.  Particularly because the Wii U will literally have only it's launch line up to release with since it's slated to release after E3.

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NintendoPie said: I think we should wait till Wii U gets some trailers but from this list The Last of Us and The Last Guardian.

I think the Wii U is unlikely to be a contendor for best because launch games rarely show off everything a console can do.  Perhaps if it was a massive jump up from the current consoles then it would be likely that the first games coming out on it can compete with the later games on the last generation, but I don't see it as likely in this situation.  Particularly because the Wii U will literally have only it's launch line up to release with since it's slated to release after E3.

Torillian said: NintendoPie said: I think we should wait till Wii U gets some trailers but from this list The Last of Us and The Last Guardian. I think the Wii U is unlikely to be a contendor for best because launch games rarely show off everything a console can do.  Perhaps if it was a massive jump up from the current consoles then it would be likely that the first games coming out on it can compete with the later games on the last generation, but I don't see it as likely in this situation.  Particularly because the Wii U will literally have only it's launch line up to release with since it's slated to release after E3.

This is true, but I think that launch games have always been ATLEAST just as good if not alway better than the best looking games on previous gen. I see no reason why devs couldnt be able to do games on par with ps3/360 just because the console is new.

Also I know Nintendo doesnt have the reputation of having the best graphics, but when you look at it 1st party games on Nintendo consoles they have always been gorgeous. Nintendo always take benefit of their machine as much as possible, Super Mario Galaxy2 is looking as beautifull as any other HD games, Metroid on Wii and especialy on the GC was looking great even when compared to games on stronger consoles, same thing with twilight princess on the GC. Metroid Other M is a other example of a rly good looking game on a rly crappy console, even SS looked great (IMO).

So I think Nintendo might surprise us with a gorgeous 1st party game, especialy because they keep insisting on the WiiU being HD so they will certainly show a game that can show to everyone what the WiiU is capable of when it comes to full 1080p HD gaming. Personaly, I think that if the Zelda HD demo were to be a actual game for 2012, it would win. That demo had insane graphics, better than any other games mentioned in this thread considering that it was gameplay footages. Sure Last of Us looked good on the trailer, but hold your horses, that was a CGI trailer, we've seen no gameplay footage yet, knowing Naughty Dog im sure it will be gorgeous but not as good looking as in the trailer.

So if you cut all the CGI crap and consider only gameplay footages, nothing come close to the Zelda HD demo, thats why its safe to say that we should wait for E3 and see what 1st party games Nintendo has to offer us before making a prediction.

Torillian said: NintendoPie said: I think we should wait till Wii U gets some trailers but from this list The Last of Us and The Last Guardian. I think the Wii U is unlikely to be a contendor for best because launch games rarely show off everything a console can do.  Perhaps if it was a massive jump up from the current consoles then it would be likely that the first games coming out on it can compete with the later games on the last generation, but I don't see it as likely in this situation.  Particularly because the Wii U will literally have only it's launch line up to release with since it's slated to release after E3.

This is true, but I think that launch games have always been ATLEAST just as good if not alway better than the best looking games on previous gen. I see no reason why devs couldnt be able to do games on par with ps3/360 just because the console is new.

Also I know Nintendo doesnt have the reputation of having the best graphics, but when you look at it 1st party games on Nintendo consoles they have always been gorgeous. Nintendo always take benefit of their machine as much as possible, Super Mario Galaxy2 is looking as beautifull as any other HD games, Metroid on Wii and especialy on the GC was looking great even when compared to games on stronger consoles, same thing with twilight princess on the GC. Metroid Other M is a other example of a rly good looking game on a rly crappy console, even SS looked great (IMO).

So I think Nintendo might surprise us with a gorgeous 1st party game, especialy because they keep insisting on the WiiU being HD so they will certainly show a game that can show to everyone what the WiiU is capable of when it comes to full 1080p HD gaming. Personaly, I think that if the Zelda HD demo were to be a actual game for 2012, it would win. That demo had insane graphics, better than any other games mentioned in this thread considering that it was gameplay footages. Sure Last of Us looked good on the trailer, but hold your horses, that was a CGI trailer, we've seen no gameplay footage yet, knowing Naughty Dog im sure it will be gorgeous but not as good looking as in the trailer.

So if you cut all the CGI crap and consider only gameplay footages, nothing come close to the Zelda HD demo, thats why its safe to say that we should wait for E3 and see what 1st party games Nintendo has to offer us before making a prediction.