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Forums - Microsoft - MSFT DecQtr: $21bn rev, $6.6bn profit, 360: 8.2m shipped, Kinect Install base 18m

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Lafiel on 20 January 2012
Zlejedi said:
When is Sony report ?

will be released 2nd of february afaik



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Reasonable on 20 January 2012
thranx said:
ethomaz said:
thranx said:
Reasonable said:
Mistershine said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
Mistershine said:
I assume a 65.8m install base means sold, not shipped?


its shipped.


According to every definition I could find online it means number of units sold and in use at any given time.

Confusion raining down from up high.

For a financial release like this MS reports what was sold to the buyer - in the case of consoles the buyer is retailers, not consumers, hence shipped equals sold to retailers.  The retailers sell to us and can pass back the info to MS but they don't have to and probably not all do - certainly outside US not all will.  Therefore while MS can aim to track sold to consumers they only know sold to retailers for sure.

The 65.8 will be sold to retail because that's what MS does and where the revenue recorded from - note the revenue will be the price the retailer pays vs what we pay which will normally inclue a small markup for the retailer which is the other reason why MS has to use shipped to retail as there would be a disconnect with the revenue they recieve and the actual price paid if they used sold to consumer.

he said install base, not shipped or sold.

What you guys are talking about??? 65.8m is shipped #FACT.

Edit - Fixed the number... typo.

I was just saying what he stated as reasonable was giving the def of shipped vs sold. Not sure what the original article said, but install base usually means in the hand of consumers and in use. That was all.

Yeah I thought he was confused by those two statements and didn't realize he was referring to the install base quote which is something different again



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Argh_College on 20 January 2012
shanbcn said:
Wating for Nintendo charts which will show how much 360 is overtracked at the moment.

Lol keep dreaming, you wont give up will you ?? lol

You really think that there´s >2m on shelves?? 

Man fanboys are absolutely badkids



eliasg on 21 January 2012

so Microsoft will not drop the XBOX, It prints dollars... Shame on you shareholders..



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nightsurge on 21 January 2012

So VGC is trying to claim 1.6million consoles for Xbox 360 still on shelves? Looks like the 360 beat the PS3 this year after all! Major undertracking would give the 360 another 800k-1.2million more than what VGC has them at!!

After adjustments, MS will have been right and Seece can modify his thread to show the Xbox 360 victory!



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thismeintiel on 21 January 2012
nightsurge said:
So VGC is trying to claim 1.6million consoles for Xbox 360 still on shelves? Looks like the 360 beat the PS3 this year after all! Major undertracking would give the 360 another 800k-1.2million more than what VGC has them at!!

After adjustments, MS will have been right and Seece can modify his thread to show the Xbox 360 victory!

Except the average units on shelves for the 360 has been ~2 million (except 2010, which saw shortages).  That and other tracking services aren't supporting any form of undertracking after our recent adjustments.  So, unless Sony posted some crazy low shipment numbers, which they probably won't, it looks like the PS3 won.