MSFT DecQtr: $21bn rev, $6.6bn profit, 360: 8.2m shipped, Kinect Install base 18m

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thranx said:

ethomaz said:

thranx said:

Reasonable said:

Mistershine said:

SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

Mistershine said:
I assume a 65.8m install base means sold, not shipped?

its shipped.

According to every definition I could find online it means number of units sold and in use at any given time.

Confusion raining down from up high.

For a financial release like this MS reports what was sold to the buyer - in the case of consoles the buyer is retailers, not consumers, hence shipped equals sold to retailers.  The retailers sell to us and can pass back the info to MS but they don't have to and probably not all do - certainly outside US not all will.  Therefore while MS can aim to track sold to consumers they only know sold to retailers for sure.

The 65.8 will be sold to retail because that's what MS does and where the revenue recorded from - note the revenue will be the price the retailer pays vs what we pay which will normally inclue a small markup for the retailer which is the other reason why MS has to use shipped to retail as there would be a disconnect with the revenue they recieve and the actual price paid if they used sold to consumer.

he said install base, not shipped or sold.

What you guys are talking about??? 65.8m is shipped #FACT.

Edit - Fixed the number... typo.

I was just saying what he stated as reasonable was giving the def of shipped vs sold. Not sure what the original article said, but install base usually means in the hand of consumers and in use. That was all.

Yeah I thought he was confused by those two statements and didn't realize he was referring to the install base quote which is something different again