| scottie said:
I'm from Australia, I finish my Bachelor of Science (Physics) and Engineering (Renewable Energy) in June. Currently working for an environmental consulting firm in the holidays.
I'm still trying to understand what you believe. Putting aside the issue of cause for a minute. Consider the graph below. Note that in very recent times, there is an increase in temperature of around 5 degrees, in such a short time as the line appears vertical. The current point on this graph, is approximately 6.5 degrees celsius warmer than the warmest (pre industrial revolution) temperature on record. as I said, ignore the chemistry behind it. Do you think that this vertical section of the graph is a) The result of human activity b) Faked. Those who gathered ice core data simply drew the graph, and discarded all of their data. c) A co-incidence.
graph is from Petit et al. - Nature, 1999
So I'm going to assume you picked a), the other two are both indefensible points so I won't bother addressing them. Now, as we have established that it is humans causing this warming, we must do two things. The first is determine what we are doing to cause the warming, and the 2nd is to stop it. This is of course a much more complex process, so I'll pause here to make sure you agree with this post. |
You have yet to actually read anything I have written, nor have you taken the time to care about any other research to the contrary. We all know the world is getting warmer. That is very clear, straight-forward and easy to understand. What we DON'T know is what are the factors that cause it and how much of that is actually related to human activites. C02 production on this planet comes from a lot of other sources than Humans. (The Oceans, Volcanic activity, Animals on the planet, etc,etc).
You do realize your graph, clearly shows an increase of temperature, then C02 concentration right? If it's a cause and effect ratio as you'd like to proclaim why is are the temperatures increasing before the C02 is? Why are there cases when the C02 levels dip that temperature goes upward?
I feel sorry for someone like yourself who is a fairly intelligent individual so convinced that this is 100% fact and won't even accept any other explanation. It doesn't shock me though with you being from Australia. They have the Carbon Tax and a whole host of other garbage making things more expensive for the general public there. This type of stuff has been going on for ages. Let's start with a little required history lesson.
From the 1940s - to the 1970s, the world was cooling. Despite a rise in C02 during that timespan, the world was cooling. Let's read an article from Newsweek 1975, Here.
Let us also look no further than the United States and President Obama. You might know of a man named John Holdren? Big proponent of global warming today. Very well educated, you know the types of folks who know a lot more than you or I.
- On December 20, 2008, President-elect Barack Obama named Holdren as his choice to be Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology.
- Oddly enough his stance in the 1970s was, “The effects of a new ice age on agriculture and the supportability of large human populations scarcely need elaboration here.” Holdren went on to write that the effects could “generate a tidal wave of proportions unprecedented in recorded history.”
So this nutcase is proclaiming of an ice age in the 70s. It gets better though. In 1986, the same man predicted "Global warming could cause the deaths of 1 billion people worldwide by 2020". Weird, in 15 years we're concerned about the impending ice age, yet 15 years or less later we're talking about people dying due to Global Warming? Damn hope a lot of people don't die to global warming in the next 8 years.
There are MANY and increasingly more within the Scientific community who disagree with this man-made global warming agenda.
About C02 itself.
It represents very little of the entire atmospheric composition. From this, humans contribute little to that composition of C02. Why does C02 have such a tangible effect yet Water Vapor does not?










