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andersonalex said:

Sony deserves all the hate people can give it right now. It has damaged this industry with the PS3. Microsoft and Nintendo both came out with platforms that can be developed for using standard programming techniques and code that can be relatively easily ported from one platform to another. Sony didn't. They came out with a system that broke away from the standards and which caused companies to have spend millions of dollars in extra development money just to get the same games out across the various platforms.

 I believe this was a calculated strategy to close down the competition. They knew very well that games that were made to really take advantage of the PS3 could not be easily (inexpensively) ported to the other systems. Making games that took full advantage of both the PS2 and the original XBox was a cakewalk compared to what it is with the PS3 and 360. All they had to do was rely on their name to get people to buy the PS3 over the other platforms, and it would be a done deal. They would have tons of exclusives, because it would simply cost more than it would be worth to port to a 360 or Wii system with a tiny install base.

 It's a strategy that's worked against them. Now developers are saying, "Forget it, we're not going to make our games exclusive for the PS3. We're going to make them for 360, and then we'll do as direct a port as possible to PS3 and not worry about making them take real advantage of that system. We're not going to recoup millions of extra dollars for each of our games on the PS3 simply by reprogramming our games to take full advantage of it, so why should we bother spending millions more? We're going to keep our code as close as possible between the two versions." 


Go back to 2001, maybe 2000, and look at all the complaints against the PS2. BUT, if what you say is true, and devs start to take full advantage of the PS3, and produce games that can ONLY be played on PS3, how do you think that will appeal to other developers? As successful as the 360, every game on there COULD be programmed for PS3. But if the PS3 was the system that could only have certain games + multiplatforms (with 360 being the lowest common denominator between the two) then how is that a bad strategy?



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hibikir said:
If someone already has a 360, the PS3's exclusive offerings are pretty small. Therefore, if you don't have a PS3 but already have a 360, the PS3 catalog is not enough for most people to want to buy the console. And, out of the exclusives, most good games are very short. Uncharted, Heavenly sword, Resistence... all short.

The Wii and the 360 share no good games with each other, so the Wii has more to offer to the omnivore 360. Now, if all games must feature guns, a sports license or licensed cars, then the Wii catalog can stink too.

As of today, I have all three. I have 18 360 games, 25 Wii games, and 3 PS3 games. The PS3 gets more use as a PS2, but I have hopes for the future.
 News to me :P it was longer than most FPS's I've played recently XD I actually agree with your statement :P but it really is just people overlooking actual facts, they assume that since they already have it on their console, the ps3 just magically doesn't o.O? It's got most of the 3rd party games the 360 does, has a pretty solid number of exclusives (wether or not you like them), and like you stated, it's a pretty damn good ps2 xD. That paired with original PSN games like Pain, Everyday, Superstardust, Calling all cars, blast factor etc etc. It's just a sad misconception in my opinion :/

 



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CrazzyMan said:
It`s all toward personal tastes.

then again, if you are fan slasher,
how many of them there on Wii or x360?
while ps3 already has GOOD NGS, HS and average Genji(N9 on x360 +soul calibur legends on wii).

if you are fan of 3d platformers:
kameo - x360, ratchet - ps3, SMG, paper mario(?) - Wii.

if you are fan of 3rd person horrors:
x360 nothing. ps3 - almost nothing(imabikisou), wii - port RE4(?).

if you fan of fighting games:
T5:DR, VF5 - ps3, Doa4, VF5 - x360, ??? - wii.

racing simulators:
forza 2 - x360, GT5P - ps3, ??? - wii.

fan of jrpg:
EA, ES, BD - x360, EA - ps3, ??? - wii.
omg a unbiased post of you?:p lolz

 



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I did some research and found the amount of titles per gaming systems that have at least a million or more copies sold worldwide.

 here it is....

 

NameConsolePublisherJapanAmericaOthersTotal
Wii SportsNintendo2.588.536.2617.37
Wii PlayNintendo2.093.912.638.63
Super Mario GalaxyNintendo0.792.191.424.40
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight PrincessNintendo0.562.271.504.33
Mario Party 8Nintendo1.121.861.024.00
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic GamesSega0.380.781.172.33
Wario Ware: Smooth MovesNintendo0.630.840.652.12
Super Paper MarioNintendo0.540.920.552.01
Big Brain Academy: Wii DegreeNintendo0.300.420.881.60
Resident Evil 4: Wii EditionCapcom0.140.640.521.30
Guitar Hero III: Legends of RockRedOctane0.001.060.161.22
Rayman Raving RabbidsUbisoft0.020.700.481.20
Mario Strikers ChargedNintendo0.130.490.471.09
Metroid Prime 3: CorruptionNintendo0.000.660.391.05
Red SteelUbisoft0.040.450.541.03



NameConsolePublisherJapanAmericaOthersTotal
Halo 3Microsoft0.094.631.746.46
Gears Of WarMicrosoft0.083.141.634.85
Forza Motorsport 2Microsoft0.042.360.963.36
Call of Duty 4: Modern WarfareActivision0.031.981.063.07
Assassins CreedUbisoft0.061.430.982.47
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion2k Games0.081.520.722.32
Marvel: Ultimate AllianceActivision0.002.220.002.22
Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced WarfighterUbisoft0.021.390.672.08
Tom Clancy Rainbow Six: VegasUbisoft0.031.280.722.03
Call of Duty 2Activision0.021.410.582.01
Call of Duty 3Spike0.031.220.691.94
Guitar Hero IIRedOctane/Activision0.001.480.341.82
Madden NFL 07EA0.011.740.041.79
Madden NFL 08EA Sports0.001.690.031.72
Guitar Hero III: Legends of RockRedOctane0.001.380.291.67
Saints RowTHQ0.020.990.651.66
Fight Night Round 3EA0.011.170.421.60
Dead RisingCapcom0.081.010.501.59
Bioshock2K Games0.000.890.601.49
CrackdownMicrosoft0.040.930.431.40
Lost Planet: Extreme ConditionCapcom0.090.860.431.38
Project Gotham Racing 3Microsoft0.050.530.771.35
Perfect Dark ZeroMicrosoft0.040.750.531.32
Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2Ubisoft0.000.780.491.27
Need for Speed: CarbonEA0.030.720.481.23
Mass EffectMicrosoft 0.000.850.351.20
Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double AgentUbisoft0.020.650.451.12
Viva PinataMicrosoft0.020.410.661.09
Pro Evolution Soccer 6Konami0.020.080.981.08
Dead or Alive 4Tecmo0.110.380.521.01



NameConsolePublisherJapanAmericaOthersTotal
MotorstormSony0.081.231.092.40
Resistance: Fall of ManSony0.141.001.092.23
Assassins CreedUbisoft0.000.581.031.61
Call of Duty 4: Modern WarfareActivision0.020.680.801.50
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008Konami0.240.000.831.07

I am unsure if this data can prove why people say there are not many titles for the PS3. However, i definately would agree that it is up to the person's preferences towards what he/she likes for gaming



boilermaker11 said:

 (I tried to keep it to games WORTH mentioning.....none of that Carnival Games crap).


I don't think you fully understand the Wii's success.........



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It's not a competiton Boilermaker11 - 06 seen me buy a Wii at launch, 07 seen me buy a 360 and 08 will see me buy a PS3 - as soon as MGS4 gets released.

08 and part of 09 will be a time of multiplatform releases but most of 09 will see more PS3 exclusives as ridiculously short single player length of COD4 points out when people push PS3 then multiplatform games will be getting shorter and shorter - for this reason alone people will move to more PS3 exclusives I reckon.



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If the wii didn't have mario, you could definatly claim it had a weak lineup.

The PS3 doesn't have a single 'must have' title, and that's important.

Also, the different control system for the wii gives games a greater sense of novelty, and that's important for people who've already been playing games for a while.

The PS3's got some solid games, with nice graphics, but still hasn't turned up a game that really shows why the PS3 is a worthwhile investment over the last generation of consoles. The wii has done with sports and mario, and to a lesser extent, metroid.



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MrMe said:
boilermaker11 said:

(I tried to keep it to games WORTH mentioning.....none of that Carnival Games crap).


I don't think you fully understand the Wii's success.........


 A lot of people fail to realize the importance of games like Carnival Games, Mario Party, Shrek III, Cars, and all those other games silly people call shovel ware or waste of time.  Those games always do very well because kids eat them up and parents know they're safe.  

I spent Christmas with my niece and nephews who range from 16 months to 7 years old and they loved silly games like that.  I think the one they liked the most was some Dora the Explorer game (or sometihng similar to that).  It was one of those game I would never touch but to kids they are like Super Mario Galaxy. 



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