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dahuman on 18 December 2011
Badassbab said:
Scoobes said:
Badassbab said:
What I like most about XBL is the things MS got right FROM THE VERY BEGINNING and the UI improvements over the years by giving it a fresh lick of paint and keeping things fresh if nothing else. I mean how many years did it take Sony to get right simple things such as latest demo, video etc tabs. PSN used to be a nightmare to navigate just to get the latest stuff.

You don't have to pay for any of that though. Silver members get the nice UI too.


Yes true, I guess this is about Gold? Well I suppose the Gold is just extra revenue for MS by making you to pay if you want to play online but as an added bonus you get a lot of sweeteners thrown in such as early demo access , discounts, lots of apps.

Playstation Store was retarded bad though, you had to navigate through shitty web pages to get anything which is not a good way to tell your customers to hand you money over, it's still shitty imo tbh but not nearly as bad.



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yo_john117 on 18 December 2011
xKratosWitAGunx said:
yo_john117 said:
xKratosWitAGunx said:

Yes cause your opinion = everyone's opinoin right? RIGHT? BTW learn to count.

I should have been more specific on what I was counting Halo/Gears

Well I see my point definitely still stands.



dahuman on 18 December 2011
sales2099 said:
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
Seece said:
Not like you have a choice if you have a 360 is it ... (in what OS you use I mean)

I think people here like to exaggerate, $60/£30 a year is nothing, especially when you can get it cheaper than that.


Money is still money man, it's always better to save if you have other cheaper alternative options unless you are a sports star or something.

Or unless you don't really care that your spending $5 a month (or in my case $2 and 8 cents a month) on a service that you use many hours a week.

Unless you don't have any sort of income coming in or you don't have any excess money whatsoever than paying for XBL is a non-issue.


I'm an individual driven by principles, and having money is exactly the reason why I'm driven by principles, because I have the power to make the choice on where my money should goto, look at the amount of money I tossed into my PC in my sig, and this was awhile ago too, money is not an issue, it's paying for anything I find lackluster or not worthwhile being the problem, XBL being one of those lackluster service I'd have to pay for, IMO of course.

Exactly. It's just fine that you don't want to pay for XBL and think it's not worth it but don't go telling other people they are wrong because they think it's worth it and pay for it because doing that just makes you come off as a bigot.

 

Just to let you know, this wasn't totally directed just at you it's for everyone in this thread that laughs or says people are getting ripped off by paying for XBL.

That's why in every post when I do mention XBL being a lackluster service I'd have to pay for, I say IMO lol. What it also is though, is a good way for parents to have easier lives once the kids get hooked, I know people that just buy 1 year for their kid as a christmas gift and be done with it, easy and brainless.

Then again, I don't ever understand why somebody would start a thread with shit like "What makes it special? What makes Xbox Live worth it?" when they already have it, there is no reason to try to justify or wonder about it, if you need a reason to back it up or feel good about it, chances are that you don't think it's worth it to start with. That's the type of question I'd ask if I didn't have XBL, the thread itself is trollish as hell.

Saving money is always good btw, there is no IMO about that part at all, if people are paying for shit they don't need, they are either too rich or too retarded. People who are the defenders and followers of XBL obviously need it, and they sure as hell don't need to justify it right?

I agree saving money is always a good thing but if you say paying for stuff you don't need = they are either too rich or retarded means everyone here bar none are "too rich" or "retarded" because we don't need to play videogames or watch TV or have overly powerful computers and the list goes on and on.

Also this thread is no different than any other thread like it on here. What's your favorite console, is PSN + worth it, the plentiful "look at my exclusives" thread.

You are completely missing the point, if I have a gaming PC(which I also use for work, I'm an IT person who can work many fields,) a PS3, and a Wii, then XBL doesn't justify as something I need to be able to play online with(which is why I sold it back in 08' btw,) use netflix, and have crossgame chat etcetc. For the people who are unfortunate to only have a 360 or only have friends that 100% play on the 360, or stand 100% behind it because it's the console of their choice and they must be the defense force behind it, the need for using XBL is obviously there. With so many multiplatform games on both the 360, PS3, and even the PC, it came down to only a few game series for me in the end on the 360, Alan Wake(now coming to Steam, so I don't feel so bad anymore) and Gears2 MP(Which fucked me over because it was broken as shit on release, I enjoyed 3 at friends' though,) like hell if I'm going to buy a 360 again and pay Gold just to play Gears 3 MP. The really sad shit is I haven't touched my consoles much since BF3, Skyrim, and Batman: AC came out on PC, last time I booted my PS3 up was Uncharted 3 and I haven't even touched Skyward Sword(I know, blasphemy) lol.

BTW, I don't have a favorite console(bar the SNES maybe, MAYBE,) but I have voiced many times before that I don't like the XBL business model. PSN+ is totally not worth it in my book, most DD games can be found cheaper on Steam or through Steam sale vs their monthly fee, and once you opt out, a lot of them stop working, cloud storage doesn't mean shit since you get so little of it, and background update is not something I'd pay for either, but at least I don't have to pay to play online with it, and it comes with Netflix and Hulu Plus by default, not to mention it's a 3D video and 3D bluray player(yar, I have a 3DTV) and works better with the media server running off my server vs the 360, not that it matter to people who are not into it though...... anyways, off topic, let me rephrase, for people with options, XBL is most likely not worth it, IMO lol.

True argument, but I hope you realize that PC gamers are purely an elitist minority. 

Most gamers, and I truly mean most gamers, solely play video games on video game consoles. When it comes down to Wii, PS3, or 360 online, Live is hands down the best of the 3.

Play games on your PC? Cool, Live isn't for you. But dont tell me that your state is something thats actually widespread, if the numbers on this site are anything to go by....its not. 


pffft, elitist my ass, it just costs more money, a luxury maybe, but in noway elite. Gaming on PC or driving a luxury car does not make somebody an elitist =P. I'm honestly more interested in where Tablet and Smart Phones will go, Nvidia is really trying to push their Tegra lines into those worlds, and they have the software engineering capabilities to do great things so it's very interesting.



yo_john117 on 18 December 2011
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:

I agree saving money is always a good thing but if you say paying for stuff you don't need = they are either too rich or retarded means everyone here bar none are "too rich" or "retarded" because we don't need to play videogames or watch TV or have overly powerful computers and the list goes on and on.

Also this thread is no different than any other thread like it on here. What's your favorite console, is PSN + worth it, the plentiful "look at my exclusives" thread.

You are completely missing the point, if I have a gaming PC(which I also use for work, I'm an IT person who can work many fields,) a PS3, and a Wii, then XBL doesn't justify as something I need to be able to play online with(which is why I sold it back in 08' btw,) use netflix, and have crossgame chat etcetc. For the people who are unfortunate to only have a 360 or only have friends that 100% play on the 360, or stand 100% behind it because it's the console of their choice and they must be the defense force behind it, the need for using XBL is obviously there. With so many multiplatform games on both the 360, PS3, and even the PC, it came down to only a few game series for me in the end on the 360, Alan Wake(now coming to Steam, so I don't feel so bad anymore) and Gears2 MP(Which fucked me over because it was broken as shit on release, I enjoyed 3 at friends' though,) like hell if I'm going to buy a 360 again and pay Gold just to play Gears 3 MP. The really sad shit is I haven't touched my consoles much since BF3, Skyrim, and Batman: AC came out on PC, last time I booted my PS3 up was Uncharted 3 and I haven't even touched Skyward Sword(I know, blasphemy) lol.

BTW, I don't have a favorite console(bar the SNES maybe, MAYBE,) but I have voiced many times before that I don't like the XBL business model. PSN+ is totally not worth it in my book, most DD games can be found cheaper on Steam or through Steam sale vs their monthly fee, and once you opt out, a lot of them stop working, cloud storage doesn't mean shit since you get so little of it, and background update is not something I'd pay for either, but at least I don't have to pay to play online with it, and it comes with Netflix and Hulu Plus by default, not to mention it's a 3D video and 3D bluray player(yar, I have a 3DTV) and works better with the media server running off my server vs the 360, not that it matter to people who are not into it though...... anyways, off topic, let me rephrase, for people with options, XBL is most likely not worth it, IMO lol.

Like I said it's fine if you don't like it but DON'T say the people who use it have no other options, are getting ripped off or anything like that. That type of elitist bullshit has no place anywhere on these forums and really is the gaming version of bigotry.



SpartenOmega117 on 18 December 2011

most of my friends have it. Other than that to me Xbox Live/Steam/PSN are all practically the same. That is all...



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Reasonable on 18 December 2011
sales2099 said:
2 broad terms that have a lot of little reasons each.

- Its seamless to get where you want

- Talking and playing with friends is very easy.

- More entertainment access (especially with dashboard update)

And overall: You pay money for the best. Its called being a console elitist. You can say that money doesn't get in the way when trying to enjoy the best form of online gaming, something PSN users can never say since they sacrifice quality for being free.

So you're saving up for a decent PC then?

Also, that's nonsese.  The only difference between PSN and Live regarding online is the cross-game/party chat.  The actual gameplay is the same - CoD/MW plays and feels exactly the same on both.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

sales2099 on 18 December 2011
Reasonable said:
sales2099 said:
2 broad terms that have a lot of little reasons each.

- Its seamless to get where you want

- Talking and playing with friends is very easy.

- More entertainment access (especially with dashboard update)

And overall: You pay money for the best. Its called being a console elitist. You can say that money doesn't get in the way when trying to enjoy the best form of online gaming, something PSN users can never say since they sacrifice quality for being free.

So you're saving up for a decent PC then?

Also, that's nonsese.  The only difference between PSN and Live regarding online is the cross-game/party chat.  The actual gameplay is the same - CoD/MW plays and feels exactly the same on both.

By now youd think LIVE is more about simply playing someone else online.......cmon. This whole thread tells you exactly what Live has over PSN. To say otherwise is ignorance. 

And im talking purely consoles. PC never enters the equation and frankly, is to me an excuse PS3 fans like to use to combat Live superiority.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 18 December 2011
dahuman said:
sales2099 said:
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
yo_john117 said:
dahuman said:
Seece said:
Not like you have a choice if you have a 360 is it ... (in what OS you use I mean)

I think people here like to exaggerate, $60/£30 a year is nothing, especially when you can get it cheaper than that.


Money is still money man, it's always better to save if you have other cheaper alternative options unless you are a sports star or something.

Or unless you don't really care that your spending $5 a month (or in my case $2 and 8 cents a month) on a service that you use many hours a week.

Unless you don't have any sort of income coming in or you don't have any excess money whatsoever than paying for XBL is a non-issue.


I'm an individual driven by principles, and having money is exactly the reason why I'm driven by principles, because I have the power to make the choice on where my money should goto, look at the amount of money I tossed into my PC in my sig, and this was awhile ago too, money is not an issue, it's paying for anything I find lackluster or not worthwhile being the problem, XBL being one of those lackluster service I'd have to pay for, IMO of course.

Exactly. It's just fine that you don't want to pay for XBL and think it's not worth it but don't go telling other people they are wrong because they think it's worth it and pay for it because doing that just makes you come off as a bigot.

 

Just to let you know, this wasn't totally directed just at you it's for everyone in this thread that laughs or says people are getting ripped off by paying for XBL.

That's why in every post when I do mention XBL being a lackluster service I'd have to pay for, I say IMO lol. What it also is though, is a good way for parents to have easier lives once the kids get hooked, I know people that just buy 1 year for their kid as a christmas gift and be done with it, easy and brainless.

Then again, I don't ever understand why somebody would start a thread with shit like "What makes it special? What makes Xbox Live worth it?" when they already have it, there is no reason to try to justify or wonder about it, if you need a reason to back it up or feel good about it, chances are that you don't think it's worth it to start with. That's the type of question I'd ask if I didn't have XBL, the thread itself is trollish as hell.

Saving money is always good btw, there is no IMO about that part at all, if people are paying for shit they don't need, they are either too rich or too retarded. People who are the defenders and followers of XBL obviously need it, and they sure as hell don't need to justify it right?

I agree saving money is always a good thing but if you say paying for stuff you don't need = they are either too rich or retarded means everyone here bar none are "too rich" or "retarded" because we don't need to play videogames or watch TV or have overly powerful computers and the list goes on and on.

Also this thread is no different than any other thread like it on here. What's your favorite console, is PSN + worth it, the plentiful "look at my exclusives" thread.

You are completely missing the point, if I have a gaming PC(which I also use for work, I'm an IT person who can work many fields,) a PS3, and a Wii, then XBL doesn't justify as something I need to be able to play online with(which is why I sold it back in 08' btw,) use netflix, and have crossgame chat etcetc. For the people who are unfortunate to only have a 360 or only have friends that 100% play on the 360, or stand 100% behind it because it's the console of their choice and they must be the defense force behind it, the need for using XBL is obviously there. With so many multiplatform games on both the 360, PS3, and even the PC, it came down to only a few game series for me in the end on the 360, Alan Wake(now coming to Steam, so I don't feel so bad anymore) and Gears2 MP(Which fucked me over because it was broken as shit on release, I enjoyed 3 at friends' though,) like hell if I'm going to buy a 360 again and pay Gold just to play Gears 3 MP. The really sad shit is I haven't touched my consoles much since BF3, Skyrim, and Batman: AC came out on PC, last time I booted my PS3 up was Uncharted 3 and I haven't even touched Skyward Sword(I know, blasphemy) lol.

BTW, I don't have a favorite console(bar the SNES maybe, MAYBE,) but I have voiced many times before that I don't like the XBL business model. PSN+ is totally not worth it in my book, most DD games can be found cheaper on Steam or through Steam sale vs their monthly fee, and once you opt out, a lot of them stop working, cloud storage doesn't mean shit since you get so little of it, and background update is not something I'd pay for either, but at least I don't have to pay to play online with it, and it comes with Netflix and Hulu Plus by default, not to mention it's a 3D video and 3D bluray player(yar, I have a 3DTV) and works better with the media server running off my server vs the 360, not that it matter to people who are not into it though...... anyways, off topic, let me rephrase, for people with options, XBL is most likely not worth it, IMO lol.

True argument, but I hope you realize that PC gamers are purely an elitist minority. 

Most gamers, and I truly mean most gamers, solely play video games on video game consoles. When it comes down to Wii, PS3, or 360 online, Live is hands down the best of the 3.

Play games on your PC? Cool, Live isn't for you. But dont tell me that your state is something thats actually widespread, if the numbers on this site are anything to go by....its not. 


pffft, elitist my ass, it just costs more money, a luxury maybe, but in noway elite. Gaming on PC or driving a luxury car does not make somebody an elitist =P. I'm honestly more interested in where Tablet and Smart Phones will go, Nvidia is really trying to push their Tegra lines into those worlds, and they have the software engineering capabilities to do great things so it's very interesting.

My point exactly. Notice I said "elitist minority". The bold merely proves my "minority" point, since only that drives the luxury cars or in this case, game on their PC. PC core gamers are in the millions....console gamers are in the dozens of millions with each console this gen at or above a 60 million install base. The sales of multiplats with PC versions today only prove my point.

But being elitist is purely mental. Its when theres a 360 vs PS3 thread, not just here, but anywhere on the internet, and you see some random guy type "They both suck PC is better" or something along those lines. Its trying to get noticed in a crowd that doesn't even acknowledge you in the first place and act like you made the party happen all by yourself. Oh no, being elitist is purely in your head, especially given how people in this thread are bringing it up when its clear its a Live vs PSN thread. 

And to me, the worst part is 99 times out of 100, your gaming PC uses Windows software. We should be allies but nooooo :P



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

blkfish92 on 18 December 2011

I can't see how it's worth it if psn manages free online, if I were a 360 gamer I would be infuriated.



           

Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 18 December 2011

I mean.. I have both services but I wouldnt say theyre both identical.

I found so much harder to join or invite in Private lobbies in PSN which is a nightmare.

Sony is removing features from Psn while MS is adding tons and tons of new features to Xbox Live.

I say, XBL is more appealing... From my experience of cource



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