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yes, i can confirm that same message.
two self watchers would make sense.

I said it made sense for self watcher to be mafia. You said i was crazy. You've already made yourself look bad, don't go for a second time. There is no reason for you to suddenly be throwing suspicion our way unless you're scum, which I don't think you are, so you're deep in the dumb right now.

If you decided to protect radish or vette, then that could mean they were cleared. Obviously, you didn't doc one of us, because you're pushing suspicion. Therefore, you protected one of you three. Whoever it was was a good pick, but I'd like to know if it was vette or radish, because if mafia tried for one of us it would've been stupid.

Now, look, to continue....mafia tried for one of us or you. Why? Because they didn't want to fall into the trap of removing the other suspect. However, like I said, this trap is the same. There is no way out. We kill one of the two, you protect me, I protect Baal. He can only kill you. Last day is me and baal vs final mafia. Get it?

Just vote radish



radishhead said:
I know how this looks where we've got a bunch of "confirmed" town players and me- who Vette has been trying to get killed the whole game- but we must have missed something, because I am town-aligned.

So it's just coincidence that you "gadget" are a pair with noc's fakeclaim "meg"?

Killing LInkz was a mistake, only a less experienced player would have done that. That's you.



Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
Yes but would radish welcome votes on himself as the final mafia?!?!
Face it man, spurge is the strategically best vote, because we force the hand of the mafia.
spurge dies, mafia at that point (either you or radish) must kill the other or simply lose a kill, then it's me baal wonk versus the final mafia.
If he decides not to kill, then we just lynch you or radish. If it's another mislynch, then it's still mafia versus me baal wonk going into the night. At which point all wonk has to do is protect one of us while we protect the other. Then it's lynch.
Easy, simple, infallible.


you do know that neither you nor baal are confirmed as town and your plan could very easily lead to a town loss.

Vette was cleared to you back when he saved you. Now that he had proven his role further you suddenly don't tust him. Why would you do that unless you are trying to set up a future mislynch?

Not to mention he kept talking like he knew spurge wasnt mafia just a peice that needed to be removed from the table.  Because he was afraid he may kill someone. Which was an absolute bullshit of a reason.

If radish would have been lynched yesterday, chance are the game would have been over.  But now Im not so sure anymore.

Although radish never gave an exact role claim.  And the partial one he gave sounded completely fabricated.  Why this wasnt enough of a reason for his lynch yesterday is beyond me.

And I am also curious as to who you protected, as for now I will assume you protected yourself, as it is what I would have done.



theprof00 said:
Vetteman94 said:
theprof00 said:
ie; it's not about me controlling the situation, it's about making sure nobody has the ability to control it.
IE; the game SHOULD be over right now since mafia cannot win given this strategy. But since it is not, these are the automatic steps that would take place to resolve the game right now.


So you making sure no one can control it, isnt taking conrtrol of it?

Explain how it wouldnt work with radish, since you have yet to give an explaination of this?

Because spurge could be lying about having another kill.
We have three unconfirmed with only one pushing that we do things his (your) way.
2 Unconfirmed will be gone by tomorrow.


Only one unconfirmed is gone.   What happened to you infallible plan?   



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I think you're bluffing about that second shot being random Vette. I don't think you have it at all.
You lied about it the first time being multiple shots, and were caught.

I think you should be lynched. Definitely.

Radish myself and baal make majority, and you want to start playing let's be friends with the confirmed doc?

unvote radish

It doesn't matter which of you get lynched today. All wonk has to do is protect me and I'll protect Baal.
mafia can lynch wonk, and me and baal will lynch the mafia. It's game over. Your suspicion reeks of desperation, the kind of desperation that would make you target one of us three last night, for instance. Guess you picked wrong, Vette.

Radish. Tell me if lynching Vette is ok with you.



theprof00 said:
I think you're bluffing about that second shot being random Vette. I don't think you have it at all.
You lied about it the first time being multiple shots, and were caught.

I think you should be lynched. Definitely.

Radish myself and baal make majority, and you want to start playing let's be friends with the confirmed doc?

unvote radish

It doesn't matter which of you get lynched today. All wonk has to do is protect me and I'll protect Baal.
mafia can lynch wonk, and me and baal will lynch the mafia. It's game over. Your suspicion reeks of desperation, the kind of desperation that would make you target one of us three last night, for instance. Guess you picked wrong, Vette.

Radish. Tell me if lynching Vette is ok with you.

I never lied about my ability,  I said it was multiple shots.  It is.  I just dont have control over one of them.  I already proved myself of this.

And if radish and baalz were really town, they wouldnt be siding with you.  You stupid plan has put us in a bad spot right now, as a lynch of radish would had made this day really easy, but you wanted control of the day. 

You are starting to remind me hatmoza from the previous game.

I dont know if I even care if radish is the last mafia or not.  I just want to see you dead this game

Vote: theprof00



You are a complete liar vette.
All you have to do is stick to the plan.

We lynch radish. If he's not mafia, you are. Wonk protects me, I protect Baal, you kill wonk. Game over.
Either way it's town win.

Everything you are doing right now is so fucking stupid for a townie to do.
I know baal is town. I have the same pm. I trust wonk.

Everything you are doing reeks.
Mafia's only chance for victory is to kill me and baal during day with a lynch. You've been the first to put that foot forward. You are the mafia.



You already proved yourself of this? You proved that you have one shot. You never proved anything else. You act as if taking out a mafia with your ability proves that you are town. How exactly does it prove this? That is just like saying because somebody voted for a mafia member, they are clearly town. It doesn't prove anything of the sort.

I want Radish and Wonk's opinions on Vette as well.

Also, I don't understand your logic in any way whatsoever when you say I wouldn't side with Prof if I was really town. I'M A SIBLING, AND THE ROLE MESSAGE SAID WE WERE BOTH ON THE SIDE OF GOOD. You are a complete doofus if you honestly think as a townie, I'm not going to side with Prof, my sibling, that is a confirmed townie based on the role message I received.

I sincerely hope you realize that by killing Prof (if you are indeed a townie), you are giving the mafia a 50% chance of winning with their night kill.



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Also, I would like to ask the mod, what happens if we wind up with a doctor and a mafia member left? Will the mafia win because it is 1 to 1, or will it be a tie?



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