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theprof00 on 11 December 2011
Wonktonodi said:
to speak further why did your mind change when one of them had not posted and another did something scummy? Them going off your liest with no exlpanation makes no sence.
All those list seem more like fishing to see if anyone will join you in going after the people on the list.

You say you dislike people saying you should trust someone. Yet when we show you evidence from the game you are a skeptic. When all we have is you saying you are town so vette must be as well to the point you just vote with him.

I'm not the one forcing opinions down other people's throats.

You can do whatever to Vette. I TRUST HIM. Just as you can trust whoever you want, and I can be a skeptic. How is it that the situations are identical, yet I'm obviously the mafia? Because you're town? Guess what sherlock? I'M TOWN. And this failure in simple logic is what's had me guessing about you this whole time.

Top paragraph. It must have beena  simple omission on noc. I didn't mean to remove him. I was on the fence with him for the most part and wasn't very clean with keeping him on or off lists. Just like he is in teh game, he drifts in and out. Why were you so against me voting HIM???? Also I didn't think that revenge vote thing was really accurate. I'll let Vette do his thing without interfering, but I'm not going to jump on board what I think might be wrong.

My lists are to to see if people will join me. They are in case I die.



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radishhead on 11 December 2011

I forgot that Noc was even playing this round- been very quiet

I've still got lots of posts to catch up on from last night, but I don't have time to do this right now



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theprof00 on 11 December 2011
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
YOU WHO CAN'T EVEN GIVE ME A SOLID REASON WHY YOU DEFENDED LINKZ.
Your whole argument in fact is in avoidance of my first question of why you provided linkz with an excuse.
You first avoided that question by asking ME why I defended someone else, without answering my question.
You have not deterred from that course. All you do is question who I suspect. You have no suspects other than me. In fact you continue on me now, even after my claim.

Go back and brng up the exact conversation, show me some post.

IIRC you came after me for not questioning link and his vote for you and I told you why I wan't questioning him. Since you weren't lynched so no flip there was no need to go into linkz vote. Also had linkz not been the first to vote time extention I would have looked at him differently, since he played it how I would have played it why would I question him fist. From my perspective you could have been saved by a fellow scum. Either Vette at that point of FF when he had unvoted before. If you had flipped town then maybe I would have looked more into linkz.

Also although you very well could have missed it, you were nearly lynched day one and didn't bother to claim then.

Yes that is correct. It DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE WAS NO FLIP. It was a vote without a reason. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. You didn't even ask even an eensy teensy little "hey linkz, why prof". Nothing! It shouldn't matter. You're supposed to go into the night with all the info you can get, and you didn't even care to do that. That doesn't seem like town behavior. Oh well, screw it, I'll just ask him tomorrow. NOTHING. BAD BAD BAD WONK.

OK sure, I could've been saved by a fellow scum. That's an opinion, and it's your right to have it.

Yes I did miss it. I had no idea that it the votes were based on the number of votes voted. Which is why I was so blindsided by the both of you which basically set this whole damn trip into motion.



theprof00 on 11 December 2011

In fact, the only reason I think you're coming around on my counter-arguments is because I've claimed.
Had I not claimed you be fully adamant you were right. But I can feel the truth ever so slightly seeping into your skull finally. CHrist man. CHECK YOURSELF. You do this EVERY DAMN GAME. And it's ALWAYS the wrong guy.



Wonktonodi on 11 December 2011
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:

 

I was convinced that mafia was you wonk and radish, in my head. Now that you've put up such a big fight, I've had to open up my suspects list to include people I felt semi good about and lurkers/noobs.

 


1.http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4329737 you mention 4 but no radish or myself on the list

2 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4329740 you add radish to the list in the next post Followed imediatly by a vote for RAdish

3. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4329742

4. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4329769 your post where you say the speed of my vote will determine how you view me the rest of the game. Had I seen the post I would have linked you to the post that answered your questions 12 hours before that.

5. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4329816 Now you finally have "opened up your suspects list" to include me.

6. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4330112 Suddenly your "5" although with me would be 6 lost moren and spurge. no questioning of them no grilling of them. Just gone.  In fact moreno posted nothing between these and Spurge revenge voted on radish.

7. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4329996 spurges posts around the revenge vote and vette calling him out on it.

8. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4330334 After links asks prof who he meant as the 5th or if prof meant 4 prof says he meant 4and in fact now saying spurge "seems genuine" and somehow the 4 changes noc is out and moreno is back in.

9. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4330337 prof explains why the list was off because radish wasn't on it when radish has been on all but the first

10. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4331012 for suspecting radish you are acting very stange towards him like you somehow think this will make him trust you.

and that is all day 1

 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4330454 saving this one for latter

 

 

 

 

1. staring point. OK
2. Yup, because he is a good possibility.
3.  It's day one. Nothing wrong with voting for suspects. There's very little evidence available, you take what you can get. I had cleared people. He wasn't one of them. therefore he's a suspect.
4. Ok I already acknowledged not seeing it before.
5. Ok? At that point, I thought you left on purpose. Logical.
6. OK I see how that happened, but he reappears in a later list. So what?
7. Umm don't see what your point is.
8. Yep, spurge seems genuine based on the noob play I was literally JUST talking about a minute ago. I see how leaving out noc is weird but that was a phone error. Notice the spanish thing on the n and your name being wonfence. I couldn't go back and check since my phone is hard to use on vgc, and noc slipped under my attention.
9. Yes I was referring to the first. It felt like he had been off it for longer, but I guess not. During the day that I wrote this, I was getting confused by the rhetoric and nonsense, and thought, I felt much more confidentl about the players on early day 1 during my attack on spurge. So I went back, and was like, yep I'm right to trust these players...except radish, that one felt right at the time, but not so much anymore. Hence the list changing. SEE HOW THAT WORKS?
10. What? I didn't want radish to think I was blindly going to lynch him for no reason. WTF are you snorting, wonk? Must be shards of glass.

Yep. Big News. Cover page stuff wonk, good sluething work.


4. Yet you still have been hostel and had me on your list even after the clear up.

7. The point is he was acting scummy and was called out on it yet he dropped off the list.

8. yes it was still weird going to 4 and confirming 4 since you phone isn't what thinks for you. However I can understand messing up when phone posts don't go well.

9. So you read back on that but didn't read back all the posts with you lists understandable, not very thorough but understandable.

10. You had already said radish was a suspect and voted him before. Why would you need to tell him anything? Do you want to lynch any of your suspects or not?



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Wonktonodi on 11 December 2011
theprof00 said:
In fact, the only reason I think you're coming around on my counter-arguments is because I've claimed.
Had I not claimed you be fully adamant you were right. But I can feel the truth ever so slightly seeping into your skull finally. CHrist man. CHECK YOURSELF. You do this EVERY DAMN GAME. And it's ALWAYS the wrong guy.


You have claimed and as I often say I do like to try and give a claim the benefit of the doubt. So most likely I will unvote you but I am not convinced yet.

Not always wrong. :)



Wonktonodi on 11 December 2011

So from a claim you said before you said you know you weren't killed or doced. I'll take it that means you were protecting your sibling. If that is the case don't scum most likely already know who your sibling is?



theprof00 on 11 December 2011

Tired of your silly questions, llama.
You lynch me, you lynch two townies.

4. Yet you still have been hostel and had me on your list even after the clear up.

7. The point is he was acting scummy and was called out on it yet he dropped off the list.

8. yes it was still weird going to 4 and confirming 4 since you phone isn't what thinks for you. However I can understand messing up when phone posts don't go well.

9. So you read back on that but didn't read back all the posts with you lists understandable, not very thorough but understandable.

10. You had already said radish was a suspect and voted him before. Why would you need to tell him anything? Do you want to lynch any of your suspects or not?

4. Because other things you have said are scummy.
7. I didn't think it was very scummy. I moved him out of who I direclty thought was scum. That didn't mean I thought he was wrong. How bad of a mafia would I be if a scum buddy did something scummy and I suddently removed him from my list? You're thinking too superficially. That's like scum never voting for scum. DUDE LAST GAME I LYNCHED AND WENT AFTER TWO OF MY OWN. Does that sound like what happened here? Christ man.
8. I went to 4 because I was trying to narrow down. I couldn't go abck and look at the OP for the list of names. I thought I'd got everyone, but apparently not.
9. Yes, that's right, I didn't read all my lists because my lists don't tell me anything, the posts do.
10. I didn't really havea good reason to lynch him. I still don't. The only evidence I have right now is lurking, and like I said, now again for the tenth time, he's been on and off my fence and suspect list. Sometimes I want to lynch him, sometimes I don't. The more the suspect list narrows, the more I want to. The more you guys question my list, the more I want to broaden it. If you want to help me lynch someone, stop accusing me of being scum EVERYTIME I vote someone. Seriously.



theprof00 on 11 December 2011
Wonktonodi said:
So from a claim you said before you said you know you weren't killed or doced. I'll take it that means you were protecting your sibling. If that is the case don't scum most likely already know who your sibling is?

That's a possibility, but I'm willing to WIFOM with mafia. I don't think they'll take the chance on either one of us.

I also don't think they went after him, so I'm not going to open up who the sibling is buttmunch, and introduce another potential target. So sorry to disappoint you.



NoCtiS_NoX on 11 December 2011
theprof00 said:
continue bitch.
Im Eilie, a sibling
ability 1: chatty sisters (can talk during the day)
ability 2: protective sisters (can protect one another, only one at a time)
ability 3: lonely sister (die if the other dies and vice versa
ability 4,5,6 are possibly too role quote-y as town.


IDK how many hours left in day 2 but I don't want theprof to be lynch. I am also going out so I don't know if I am going to be able to make it in time. 

Anyway, I think my Vote will result in a non lynch if other will not vote for theprof.

VOTE Spurge

My reason to this is to pressure him in answering my question. He is been dodging a lot of question so far and I think I will get an answer if I vote for him.