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theprof00 said:
Linkzmax said:
So a http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Friendly_Neighbor is useless?

Try being a little less vague, and maybe I'll consider answering your question.

Are you saying that that is basically what you are?

Nonsense.

What would you consider the Friendly Neighbor to be?

I'm in no way saying my role works similarly. Mine is far more useful if used well, but the basic premise of FN is the worst-case for a self-watcher.



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so prof what is your conclusion following the tally of NIV from last night?



Obviously there's a reverse-Framer you scummy mafia scum of the earth.



How have I gone off the deep end?

Linkz, I only just thought about that possibility.

Thoeretically, you could use a power on your team to make it seem like you had a role that you didn't. Just like in one round where I said my power told me that someone visited me, and it was vette, who was trying to recruit me. I knew that I would be informed if someone tried to recruit me. I was mafia.

I went on to tie for the win that round. It's not that crazy of a scenario.
And, you're twisting words. I didn't say you were recruited. I said that a role who finds out names would be useful for someone who is looking for someone, and is usually a recruiter. The only question is why that role didn't use it yesterday.

That role that targeted you today. I don't want a name, unless it's wonk. Was it wonk?



If I were to not consider any possible roles the mafia manipulating the votes, and there was no lying, then I'd say you were copped and came up innocent.
That's good for you, but still doesn't explain why you defended linkz' no reason vote.
I'm sorry it's hard for you guys to understand. You have both done things I find very suspicious. I don't know any of the roles. If I did, I'd be more inclined to believe you.
Frankly, you two keep coming across like partners, and I find that suspicious. Sorry.



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Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:
Linkzmax said:
So a http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Friendly_Neighbor is useless?

Try being a little less vague, and maybe I'll consider answering your question.

Are you saying that that is basically what you are?

Nonsense.

What would you consider the Friendly Neighbor to be?

I'm in no way saying my role works similarly. Mine is far more useful if used well, but the basic premise of FN is the worst-case for a self-watcher.

How? That basically assumes that mafia have no roles.

I'm genuinely curious about self-watcher. I don't think I've ever played with one. Forgive my ignorance.

Now again, is the role that outed your name a town role? Doesn't initially seem like one.



If the name outer is a town role, that would imply that mafia have mafia names.
Yet, looking at the OP, the people here are 11 captains of the 108 stars. None *should* have evil names.



I see what you're saying, but as you said why not use the power yesterday? And I didn't twist your words to say I was recruited, but the only way I could see the flavor happening is if my hypothetical partner tried to recruit me.(and that would obviously fail since we're on the same team already)

As for "Linkz, the role that targeted you today. Is that a town role? Because it sounds like a role that's looking for someone. IS that town? Because the roles I've had experience with that look for others are generally bad people."

I think it's a town role, but cannot be certain. I do know I was not recruited, nor have I been informed of anything changing me(vote thief or whatever else may exist) except that my character name was revealed. I don't think we're dealing with any cult-like factions, and I can only think of a rolecop or poisoner as mafia abilities which could have affected me, since I wasn't RBed and am not dead. It would be very odd for a recruiter to announce their own name. Furthermore, I am able to find out not only which player targeted me, but their name as well. I didn't know the flavor was going to happen, otherwise my plan was to call out "Hai Yo"(if he agreed to outting or a large amount of votes called for it) to claim the visit at the same time. Like being visited by a FN there is no reason to lie about the visit even as mafia. It wouldn't confirm him, but my goal was only to be confirmed myself.

I'm not giving a name. "Hai Yo" has clearly chosen not to come forward.



EBWOP: Should've quoted http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4335436



spurgeonryan said:
radishhead said:

That Spurge is a person not to be trusted - I can't remember my exact reasons, but there were definitely valid ones

Well I guess this means that we have ruled you out as being the Cop. ;)

 

For Lynching today I have two choices of who I would pick if we are going for a lynch.

Baalzamon or NoCtis

Baalzamon is always a very bright member outside of the game, but he is playing a very controlled and smart person here. Little argument from him, and right to the point. Potential Serial Killer!

NoCtis has distanced himself from the game as far as I can tell, more than the others, and I know he is on all the time, at least he used to be. Why is that?

Here we go again, why do you do this to me!?

What makes you say he's a Serial Killer instead of mafia?