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1) how does that relate back to me saying that ff didnt get a vote? I understand that you think not discussing is good for mafia but how did my interaction with ff say what you say it does?

2) and dod either of those things happen? I saw several people disagree with your vote. What do you conclude sherlock?

3) linkz doesnt need any reason to lynch a townie, you were going to unvote but prefer a lynch... on someone you were going to unvote.

unvote
Vote wonk



Evidence: metagaming as a lynch reason.
Prefering to lynch someone you claim that you wanted to unvote.
Not questionong a reasonless vote on someone you were going to unvote.
Linkz saying he was sure youre scum ( i agree! )



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Misuse it, and the power is then given to the mafia. It is an attempt to thwart cheating.



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spurgeonryan said:
Vetteman94 said:

Well he has reasons for his vote on you.  

Your vote is kinda surprising as it comes off as both a revenge vote and a bandwagon vote hidden in what you are trying to pass off as a normal vote catching scum.   

You have a couple people that have you on their suspicion list, and this vote isnt going to help matters. And it just added you to my list

That is true, but I did not change my vote. I just said that he exposed himself in my eyes. There was no revenge about it. I do not think I have ever posted anything about radish in the way you are saying.

 

In character: This is what I get for saving my skin.

 

A revenge vote would be going after you for voting for me just because I voted for radish, even though radish voted for me. Which was not the reason I voted for Radish in the first place.

It appears to be a revenge vote because you've voted for him after he's voted for you. It doesn't matter if it's your first and only vote, last vote, or anything in between. In simplest terms it looks like

A says, "B you're mafia" and then B says, "A, you must be scum for voting me"

It seems like a bandwagon vote because momentum has started going on radish and you quickly climbed on board before it could lose steam.

Well reasoned arguments can make it look less like either type of vote, but the timing is the biggest factor despite anything said. That being said, do you know how radish responds to pressure when he is in fact Town?

 

Have you been dropping character hints all "day"?



Baalzamon said:
Vetteman94 said:
Baalzamon said:
I honestly don't understand people's reasoning in day 1 in this game. I know no way to explain it other than just plain stupid.

There's a reason I haven't been posting. I deem it to be a waste of my time.

Well maybe a "genius" like yourself can grace us with a better understanding of whats going on then.  Maybe help get the town pointed in the right direction instead of just being insulting about it.  

Otherwise, you are right, you posting is a waste of time

What's going on?  Well, to start the day, Prof lied out of his ass, and attempted to get spurgeon to admit being mafia.  We can either conclude that spurgeon had people helping him, and thus was able to thwart this attempt, or spurgeon isn't mafia, and was confused because of this.

Nothing about this was in any way scummy by Prof.  As a matter of fact, why in the hell would a scum lie about being a cop, and try getting a noob to admit being mafia?  It doesn't even make sense.

Other than that, there has simply been discussion about whether or not we should reveal who we will vote for with our investigation vote.

I'm sort of confused how somebody can't have an "understanding" of what is going on.

In regards to the investigation vote, simply putting an ounce of thought into it, it seems rather obvious that mafia do not themselves have a vote in it.  In a game with 11 players, we likely have 3 mafia.  So people here honestly think the mafia is going to get 3 out of 11 votes for who the investigation goes on?  I don't think Stefl would allow this.

Also, for those who think we should reveal who we will vote for with the investigation, it still makes no sense how this will help us in any way.

Whew, so you're just as stupid as the rest of us.



Baalzamon said:
Misuse it, and the power is then given to the mafia. It is an attempt to thwart cheating.

Seems like two ounces to me :P

So why say "manipulate the vote completely?"



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You want to go tow to toe with a town prof. Well then come at me bro.

I said ff had no vote to be more beloevable to spirge. Ff was ruining the attempt with his stupid nagging.
And you defended that action so dont go trying to make it seem like i believed half of what i said.
secondly, mafia havong votes makes sense.
But it also makes sense that they might have another trick such as a busser or something. Which would also tie in well with the " vompletely" that you keep talking about.
Or maybe it means that they all lose their votes. Who am i to say?
Id rather be cautious before divulging info to mafia.
Which is why i asked for discussion before we do something rash.

See, i think madia have a power. Some of the reason stems from your own interaction with wonk. You are pretty sure hes mafia yet you are willing to have him copped and onstead put your vote on me without a reason and shortly after you said you had a good feeling about me. Furthermore, your vote nearly got me killed and your next suspects baal and vwtte have really done nothing suspicious as much as wonk has.
O think you and wonk are scum.
I think youre taking a page from my scum book and going hard on your teammates in the event they are flipped.



And yes i do have a reason. Ges one of my top 5 suspects. ( radish that is)
For the record.. my suspects are now you wonk radiah and noc



It also follows with wonks nearly nonexistent defense against your accusation.
Im comfortable lynching either one of you.



Linkzmax said:
Baalzamon said:
Misuse it, and the power is then given to the mafia. It is an attempt to thwart cheating.

Seems like two ounces to me :P

So why say "manipulate the vote completely?"

(No offense to stefl) Did you see the english he used in the role PM's?  Seems to me this fits perfectly with what I described above.



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theprof00 said:
1) You want to go tow to toe with a town prof. Well then come at me bro.

2) I said ff had no vote to be more beloevable to spirge. Ff was ruining the attempt with his stupid nagging.
And you defended that action so dont go trying to make it seem like i believed half of what i said.
3) secondly, mafia havong votes makes sense.
But it also makes sense that they might have another trick such as a busser or something. Which would also tie in well with the " vompletely" that you keep talking about.
Or maybe it means that they all lose their votes. Who am i to say?
Id rather be cautious before divulging info to mafia.
Which is why i asked for discussion before we do something rash.

4) See, i think madia have a power. Some of the reason stems from your own interaction with wonk. You are pretty sure hes mafia yet you are willing to have him copped and onstead put your vote on me without a reason and shortly after you said you had a good feeling about me. Furthermore, your vote nearly got me killed and your next suspects baal and vwtte have really done nothing suspicious as much as wonk has.
O think you and wonk are scum.
I think youre taking a page from my scum book and going hard on your teammates in the event they are flipped.

1) Stop refering to yourself as town, it comes off like you're trying to sound convincing rather than genuine. And if you do make this down to one of us I am going to bury you, so if you're really town then do yourself a favor and quit while you have a chance.

2) Right answer!

3) Agreed, though I'm not certain if it's a collective vote or one for each.

4) Have you been paying attention? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4327260
Brilliant prof, I came up with the idea of discussing who we should vote for so the town would have a say and then I tried to persuade town to scan my scummate.(Godfather I suppose?)
Funny you bring up me saying I had a good feeling about you. Did you forget you said you had the feeling radish is town? And now you've put him on your list of suspects and voted, both without a reason even now.
Yes, I said that my intention was to have a lynch, namely yours since you were the only option, over no lynch. I haven't mentioned Baal or Vette as suspects, I said they should be investigated to cut down on "lynch all lurkers."
How could I be taking a page from your book when I'm not even going hard on anyone, except maybe you? lol

Your recent list of 5 suspects is missing one, who is it?

I didn't expect much of a defense to "you are scum because I say so." Too bad he didn't react more or you could have called him defensive, eh?